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[dasmo]

It’s Assh*le Drive actually....

[MarkoJ]

I don’t live there anymore. 

 

Just curious as to your decision to selling and move from Fairfield? Was it neighbourhood related or property specific?

[nerka]

Does anyone have a link to population density of Victoria neighbourhoods?  Land area would work too because the population numbers are widely available.  I'm curious about the present day density of Victoria neighbourhoods.

[dasmo]

Just curious as to your decision to selling and move from Fairfield? Was it neighbourhood related or property specific?

Many things. The short version:  Had to move to Rotterdam to save my family unit. This put the Fairfield build on hold. Living in a place that had zero nature and wild space really showed is that our son needs that and that that is what Canada has to offer over anywhere else.  So after we decided not to stay in the Netherlands any longer and to return to paradise we decided we wanted to live in nature not in town.

[Casual Kev]

Does anyone have a link to population density of Victoria neighbourhoods?  Land area would work too because the population numbers are widely available.  I'm curious about the present day density of Victoria neighbourhoods.

 

I think the CoV website has neighborhood stats, not sure how deep they go though.

[aastra]

The current version of the GeoSearch is here:

https://www12.statca...e/index-eng.cfm

 

Back in the day I prepared some maps from the census tract data. But these are the 2006 numbers so not current:

 

[aastra]

The Vic West census tract was 3,726 per square km in 2006 and had increased to 4,758 per square km in 2016.

 

The downtown census tract was 3,744 per square km in 2006 and had increased to 4,961 per square km in 2016.*

 

*Downtown is now slightly more densely populated than the city of Victoria's average. That deserves a

 

Some of the Fairfield census tracts:

 

7,084 per square km in 2006; had increased to 7,583 per square km in 2016

7,259 per square km in 2006; had decreased to 7,015 per square km in 2016 (is that right or is my 2006 map data incorrect?)

Edited by aastra, 28 September 2018 - 01:13 PM.

[LJ]

^Wow, according to my google machine Shanghai has a population density of 3800 per sq. km., so that makes Fairfield almost twice as dense. That does not compute with what I see in Shanghai considering it is the 5th densest populated in the world.

[LJ]

LJ: I propose we enact your closure plan the day before you come back, seems fair right?

Nothing screams ridiculous then comparing Victoria to Shanghai as a way to prevent new homes from being built.

Nobody, at least me is comparing Victoria to Shanghai and I am all for new homes being built.

But I never want to live in a place as crowded as Shanghai.

[PPPdev]

IMO, when the line and graph are close is a more balanced spread but as we've seen, there are other opinions

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[Casual Kev]

The Vic West census tract was 3,726 per square km in 2006 and had increased to 4,758 per square km in 2016.

 

The downtown census tract was 3,744 per square km in 2006 and had increased to 4,961 per square km in 2016.*

 

*Downtown is now slightly more densely populated than the city of Victoria's average. That deserves a

 

Some of the Fairfield census tracts:

 

7,084 per square km in 2006; had increased to 7,583 per square km in 2016

7,259 per square km in 2006; had decreased to 7,015 per square km in 2016 (is that right or is my 2006 map data incorrect?)

 

It's almost as if most land use in downtown isn't actually residential. Residents from Fairfield to Sooke aren't going there everyday to visit their buds and people don't come from Vancouver to Auckland to sight-see apartment buildings, you know.

 

^Wow, according to my google machine Shanghai has a population density of 3800 per sq. km., so that makes Fairfield almost twice as dense. That does not compute with what I see in Shanghai considering it is the 5th densest populated in the world.

 

Fairfield is a small residential neighborhood in the middle of an urban area; the vast majority of if its land use goes towards housing in a near-downtown setting. The municipality of Shanghai is massive, including large tracts of rural, industrial and otherwise sparsely populated areas. For comparison with another near-downtown residential neighborhood, Vancouver's West End has almost 22,000 people per km^2

^Wow, according to my google machine Shanghai has a population density of 3800 per sq. km., so that makes Fairfield almost twice as dense. That does not compute with what I see in Shanghai considering it is the 5th densest populated in the world.

 

Fairfield is a small residential neighborhood in the middle of an urban area; the vast majority of if its land use goes towards housing in a near-downtown setting. The municipality of Shanghai is massive, including large tracts of rural, industrial and otherwise sparsely populated areas. 

[dasmo]

If we are urban planning by graph then pick on Rockland!

[Freedom57]

Can you exempt the 36 acres that are part of Government House in this graph as it pertains to Rockland?  That skews the data, I would think.

 

How about picking on..... Fernwood.... instead.

[Casual Kev]

In absolute terms Fairfield is hardly the worst offender, it's just inexplicable how the neighborhood already has a fair share of density that clearly fits in and allows for a walkable lifestyle, yet there's intense resistance to expand something that already works. 

 

But then again, I can't explain either how there's UVic up in Saanich and the off-campus housing plan is basically basement suites. 

[zoomer]

I know this was mentioned in the last provincial election re: universities building more student housing - but get on with it! 2000 new units would free up a ton of basement suites, bringing down the price to something more reasonable and open those up to low income earners. Another benefit, UVic could get aggressive on marketing student residences in the summer to compete with Air BnB and ultimately reduce that segment of housing that's currently tied up. I had a friend who stayed at a UBC residence Hotel this summer because it was half the price of the cheapest available three star downtown hotel and at least 30 percent cheaper than Air BnB options.

Edited by zoomer, 28 September 2018 - 10:52 PM.

[LJ]

They built a new city in Suzhou in four years that is now home to 10,000,000 folks, massive blocks of highrise condo's/apartments, each one of them has some sort of lightshow going on. I will post some pics when I get out from behind the great firewall. The government declared this to be the technology center of China and in 5 years it is. 

[RFS]

They built a new city in Suzhou in four years that is now home to 10,000,000 folks, massive blocks of highrise condo's/apartments, each one of them has some sort of lightshow going on. I will post some pics when I get out from behind the great firewall. The government declared this to be the technology center of China and in 5 years it is.

Did they adequately consult with all stakeholders including indigenous groups?

[VIResident]

The bad design that created one of America’s worst housing crises Few realize how profoundly San Francisco’s physical form has been shaped by its planning department, whose best intentions have been overshadowed by efforts to appease the city’s wealthy, well-connected homeowners.

https://www.fastcomp...n_date=09292018

[PPPdev]

Can you exempt the 36 acres that are part of Government House in this graph as it pertains to Rockland?  That skews the data, I would think.

 

How about picking on..... Fernwood.... instead.

 

We did, the data is residential land only

[PPPdev]

Population density of Victoria neighbourhoods: people per residential hectare / density increase ppl per hectare per year 2011-2016

 

Burnside: 75.5 (1.78)

Downtown: 74 (4.57)

Fairfield: 88.7 (0.93)

Fernwood: 79.6 (0.61)

Gonzales: 43.2 (0.21)

Harris Green: 223.2 (1.12)

Hillside/Quadra: 73.1 (0.68)

James Bay: 119.6 (1.55)

North Jubilee: 81.7 (0.86)

North Park: 111.4 (0.68)

Oaklands: 63.6 (0.48)

Rockland: 40.2 (0.38)

South Jubilee: 92 (0.96)

Victoria West: 88 (1.98)

 

Some parts of Vancouver are 1050 people per hectare...

 

 

Haha, Gonzales added 21% of a single human, per hectare, per year over the last census period..."Respect our neighbourhoods, stop over development"