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#61 Rob Randall

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Posted 17 July 2018 - 01:58 PM

Buckerfields is *****ing about recycling again:

 

https://www.saanichn...t-be-addressed/

 

The purpose of the submission is to publicly state two of the most serious reasons why in my opinion a Judicial Public Inquiry into the administration of Blue Box recycling in British Columbia is required.

We cannot stand idly by while the government uses it regulatory authority to force us to sign contracts, thereby encroaching on, and diminishing our ‘freedom to contract’.

If we allow the government to do this to ‘corporate citizens’, we invite the government to do this to ‘private citizens’. Freedom to contract and the admonition not to interfere with it lightly, applies equally.

Second, we cannot stand idly by while the government uses its regulatory authority to raise money to pay for public sector programs outside the BC Legislature. Legislative control over taxation and the results of government expenditures has been fundamental to our democracy since the days when we took the power of arbitrary and preferential taxation away from kings. We must not allow the return of such arbitrary and totalitarian practices in our province.

Third, we are entitled to be provided with complete, valid and accurate performance measurement information about every public-sector program that we pay for. If the information we are provided is incorrect from a public policy standpoint, we need to demand and receive the correct information so we can assess the merits and the shortcomings not only of the program themselves, but of the governments that administer them.

 

 

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#62 Nparker

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Posted 31 August 2018 - 12:32 PM

Our property manager has informed us that all garbage/recycling contractors are no longer accepting glass in their recycling and have advised us to throw out all glass in the garbage bin...

I seem to recall my strata was told the same thing, although as of last night there was still a bin labelled "glass only" along side our other recycling bins.

I should have updated this sooner, but a few weeks ago the "glass only" bin was removed from the recycling station at my building and we have been directed to put all our glass into the garbage dumpster.



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Posted 01 September 2018 - 07:41 AM

Haven't heard of anything yet for our building :/


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#64 todd

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Posted 01 September 2018 - 11:08 AM

Maybe this is why I've been having problems with bottle kids lately luckily chased them down provided them with brooms and bucket to restore the problem :whyme: . https://www.youtube....bed/bbXNW1TvCJ4



#65 kenmuir

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Posted 16 October 2018 - 08:16 PM

I finally remembered to take my phone with me when I took out the trash in my building, considering our glass bin was removed back in August.  Waste Management has had this poster up for weeks attributing the removal of glass recycling on "new recycling legislation in BC".

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Posted 16 October 2018 - 08:21 PM

Well, the CRD still says to just separate it: https://www.crd.bc.c...on-refundable- 



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Posted 16 October 2018 - 08:26 PM

I'm not sure it's a "legislation" thing per that sign, but rather commodity values have tanked now that China won't take our waste and it's no longer worth capturing these items separately. 

 

Our contractor hasn't given us any direction yet.


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#68 Nparker

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Posted 16 October 2018 - 08:35 PM

On the plus side, my recycling bin is getting lighter, even as my garbage bags are getting heavier.



#69 shoeflack

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 10:57 AM

If you were planning on returning your pop cans this weekend, you may want to hold off for another week.

 

Return-It Announces Changes to Beverage Container Deposit Levels

 

As of November 1st, there will be a 10-cent deposit for all ready-to-drink beverage containers containing soft drinks, juice, water, energy and sport drinks up to and including 1 litre in size. Consumers can redeem their full 10-cent deposit refund on these containers when recycling at Return-It depots and retail locations province-wide.

 


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#70 Rob Randall

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 11:35 AM

Are there that many people throwing pop cans in the garbage?



#71 shoeflack

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 11:37 AM

Are there that many people throwing pop cans in the garbage?

 

I believe the primary factor was just getting everything consistent. So now a can is 10 cents regardless of what's in it.



#72 Rob Randall

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 11:41 AM

True, with things like premium soft drinks and alcoholic Hires Root Beer it can be hard to sort them.

 

I was really shocked at the number of cans thrown in the garbage in Europe. We asked someone if there's a deposit or recycling program and he just shrugged and said, probably, I guess.



#73 shoeflack

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 11:46 AM

I suppose that's one benefit of our homeless issue in Victoria. You can be certain that any can or bottle deposited into a trash can downtown will promptly be scooped. Quite handy to be able to leave that empty can of pop on the top of a garbage can knowing it's going to be picked up likely within the hour.



#74 LJ

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 07:55 PM

We just save ours in a bag and wait for some sports team or school group to come by looking for cans. Over the summer had to make a trip to the return it depot because we had so many and nobody was coming around. There was a woman at the place sorting out what looked like hundreds of cans etc. and I asked her if she was collecting for something. She said a school trip for her kids. Handed over my garbage bag full and left.


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Posted 25 October 2019 - 05:30 AM

I knew that Staley Q. Woodvine would have an articulate piece on the increase of non alcoholic beverage containers. Staley is a professional homeless by choice person that combs the Fairview district in Vancouver for returnable beverage containers. He also is a regular contributor to the Straight magazine.

I went looking for Stanley a while back when I was in Vancouver for a day and found him in McDonalds on Broadway. Nice chap. He is the real deal. I need to write a piece one day on how to find a homeless person in a city with millions of people.

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#76 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 25 October 2019 - 05:44 AM

include in that piece why you sought out that particular homeless person on that day.


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Posted 16 August 2020 - 05:44 AM

 

 

Hartland Landfill expansion plans rile neighbouring residents

 

 

 

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Posted 16 August 2020 - 05:53 AM

i wonder.  garbage that has been siting there for 10 or 20 years - can't it be dug up and moved somewhere?  is it still full of water or whatever?

 

what i mean is that we have one facility and is it well suited to both 1 day old garbage and 35 year old garbage?  at some point does the old garbage not get less troublesome?  and can be placed elsewhere that does not have to be so well designed for garbage?

 

like can't you scoop it up compress it some more and place it in plastic bales to be stored almost anywhere?  then re-use the space you cleared for new garbage.

 

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#79 Rob Randall

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Posted 16 August 2020 - 06:49 AM

^Why can't it be processed first?

 

In the old days, nothing was recycled except some deposit cans and bottles. Dig up the oldest part of the landfill and put everything on a belt, metals get diverted, anything organic, including paper (which at this point would be in soggy, horrible condition) would be composted and so forth. It would be either technologically complex, or labour intensive, maybe both but that could be dealt with. Maybe have a highly-filtered incinerator. The size of Hartland could be drastically reduced. 



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Posted 16 August 2020 - 07:34 AM

Or just accept that landfills are how contemporary society gets rid of its garbage and let the CRD expand Hartland as required?

The entire concept of a landfill revolves around not digging anything up, but burying it for all time.

 

Expand Hartland, and it gets used as its intended to be used ... and in a few hundred years, it will be overgrown with trees, and part of Mount Work Regional Park - the proverbial "you" (as we'll all be long dead) won't even be able to tell it was ever there.

 

It's like logging and clear cuts, they look terrible while they're "active", but a few hundred years down the road, they're back to normal - looking just as nature intended.


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