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#161 mbjj

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 06:13 AM

I would need binoculars to see it, lol.


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#162 Rob Randall

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 10:26 AM

Reading this is worth the investment of your time. The bizarre downward spiral of popular Winnipeg CTV sportscaster Steve Vogelsang:

 

https://www.winnipeg...-567889492.html

 

The first time Vogelsang tried to rob a bank, he chickened out. It was July 7, 2017, and he’d parked in front of the Royal Bank on 7th Avenue North in Regina just before it closed. The bank was busier than he expected; as he watched people flow in and out, he decided, with a sense of relief, to abort the mission.
 

It was only a temporary reprieve. He returned to the bank the next morning, and this time put his plan into action. By then, he’d made a firm decision that robbing banks would be the best way to escape his crushing debt, and he had always prided himself on being a man who followed through with his ambitions.
 

"Because I’d convinced myself that I had to do this, I didn’t want to not do it because of a lack of courage," he says. "I should have not done this for ethical, for moral and for legal reasons. But the reason I chose to do it was because I didn’t want to not do it because my courage failed me."

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#163 todd

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 08:56 AM

he didn’t want to hurt his pride by not robbing a bank

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 10:14 AM

I’m guessing sports betting was the problem?

I’d read more but I don’t want to give my email address to the Winnipeg “Free” Press

#165 Rob Randall

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 10:39 AM

That article is not behind any soft paywall that I can see. The full article opens for me when clicking on the link.

 

As for his debt, it was just plain bad luck and poor planning. He relocated to Nelson, BC and found his only asset, his charm, social networks and local fame did not translate to a small, insular town. His career and marriage collapsed.

 

That's why I find it scary and fascinating. If it was drugs or gambling we could distance ourselves from it--"it could never happen to me". 

 

What would you do if your entire successful life collapsed around you and your back was against the wall? I'm 99.9% sure I would never rob a bank but that 0.1% scares me.



#166 todd

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 11:03 AM

I want to see some bank records

#167 Rob Randall

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 11:17 AM

^Because you doubt him? That's what I mean, we have a natural urge to demonize people in order to wall ourselves off from the possibility that it could happen to us. Maybe there was a hidden gambling debt. It would make his story fit in a nicer box.



#168 todd

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 11:25 AM

We are all human I doubt everyone. Aunt down in the US had a bad gambling problem. Also taken tons of sports bets(bcl) love Las Vegas but I go to people watch don’t spend more than a little chump change.

I don’t think I’d “rob” a bank seems as bad as gambling don’t they catch most bank robberies in 2020

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 12:36 PM

We're often encouraged to suppose that a spotlighted individual's situation must have been absolutely and measurably more dire, to account for that individual's self-absorption and how poorly he handled it. But if you have any direct experience with major financial setbacks, health issues, addiction issues, mental health issues, marital issues, accidents/tragedies, crime/victimization, extreme bad luck, etc. (and surely we all do) then you understand that there's no correlation whatsoever between the sheer desperation of somebody's personal straits and that individual's inclination to take advantage of others.

 

It's not a simple matter of degree, as if the sportscaster robbed banks because his circumstances were pushed to level 10, whereas my circumstances never got worse than level 5 so therefore I didn't rob banks. That's not how life works. We all have stuff going on. I've got plenty of level 10 stuff in my past (and future, I'm sure). We all do. Real people everywhere go through devastating ordeals every single day.

 

Say what? Don't those dramatic struggles and spiritual challenges only happen on TV? You mean every single person that I know has gone through something like that? Many people that I know are going through something like that right now? You mean every stranger on the street has gone through something like that? Many strangers on the street are going through something like that right now? And I've been oblivious to it?

 

 

"I’m empathetic. Not to what he did, but to where he was in his life, because I’ve had similar struggles," Bauming says, softly. "I think a lot of people have."

 

 

They are also the same things that, in the end, drove him to commit one of the strangest crime sprees in memory, and hurt a lot of people.

"This entire experience has been humbling, which really is not that harmful to me," he says. "My critics would say, ‘well, you needed one of those,’ and I would admit to that. It has helped me grow as a person."

 

He seems to have been tuned in to one narrow channel to the exclusion of all others. Getting humbled is never harmful.



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Posted 17 February 2020 - 01:33 PM

^Because you doubt him? That's what I mean, we have a natural urge to demonize people in order to wall ourselves off from the possibility that it could happen to us. Maybe there was a hidden gambling debt. It would make his story fit in a nicer box.


Also still haven’t been able to get the article to open


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#171 AllseeingEye

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Posted 24 November 2020 - 12:56 PM

Although specifically talking to BCTV/Global this excellent commentary by veteran reporter and ex-BCTV/Global alumnus Harvey Oberfeld could easily pertain to the situation in radio these days as well - spot on observations:

 

https://www.pugetsou...LN3QNwTg4opcM24


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#172 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 02 February 2021 - 01:14 PM

bellmedia cut another 400 or so jobs this week.


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#173 Nparker

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Posted 02 February 2021 - 01:39 PM

Bell media cut another 400 or so jobs this week.

Does this mean they will also be cutting my monthly cell phone charges?



#174 todd

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Posted 02 February 2021 - 02:47 PM

Does this mean they will also be cutting my monthly cell phone charges?


No.
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#175 UDeMan

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Posted 02 February 2021 - 03:29 PM

At least they waited to fire all these employees after the Bell Let's Talk mental health day. Such a caring corporation.
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#176 AllseeingEye

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Posted 02 February 2021 - 03:37 PM

Sure "Let's Talk" Bell....perhaps we can start with the state of the mental health of all those folks you canned before that campaign is even cold?

 

Let's Talk is the biggest sham media campaign disguised as a charitable enterprise. And what is the response from subsidized corporate media in this country? Not one word in opposition. No analysis. No research. Nothing. But the CEOs got their bonuses so that’s all right, then...

 

Past time IMO to let in the American wireless carriers so they can crush and wipe the floor with the motley collection which exists in this country, providing poor to non-existent customer service and ever-rising fees, not to mention their sham borderline criminal tele-sales practices.


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#177 todd

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Posted 02 February 2021 - 04:43 PM

At least they waited to fire all these employees after the Bell Let's Talk mental health day. Such a caring corporation.

 

 It's not working I find those commercials depressing,



#178 JohnsonStBridge

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Posted 02 February 2021 - 05:53 PM

Your tax dollars at work. Bell must have missed what their $122M in wage subsidies was intended to be used for.  


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#179 vortoozo

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Posted 03 February 2021 - 12:18 AM

 

Past time IMO to let in the American wireless carriers so they can crush and wipe the floor with the motley collection which exists in this country, providing poor to non-existent customer service and ever-rising fees, not to mention their sham borderline criminal tele-sales practices.

 

That simply isn't feasible. How long has it taken Shaw to build out their Freedom network? They are well capitalized and it's nowhere near complete. Unless you lock yourself into Shaw's full-priced internet/cable plans which are higher than the Telus equivalents, the prices are comparable to the flanker brands.

 

Why would a US telecom want to invest heavily in this country in order to start a price war and not see a return on investment for decades? It's not like Americans are all that fond of Verizon and the other US telcos. I would imagine their service is comparable to what you would find with Bell/Telus/Rogers.

 

Regardless, I fail to see how a few hundred layoffs at a media division have any relevance to mobility pricing. 



#180 AllseeingEye

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Posted 03 February 2021 - 04:10 AM

That simply isn't feasible. How long has it taken Shaw to build out their Freedom network? They are well capitalized and it's nowhere near complete. Unless you lock yourself into Shaw's full-priced internet/cable plans which are higher than the Telus equivalents, the prices are comparable to the flanker brands.

 

Why would a US telecom want to invest heavily in this country in order to start a price war and not see a return on investment for decades? It's not like Americans are all that fond of Verizon and the other US telcos. I would imagine their service is comparable to what you would find with Bell/Telus/Rogers.

 

Regardless, I fail to see how a few hundred layoffs at a media division have any relevance to mobility pricing. 

 

Obviously. My comment was (mostly) intended as facetious, borne out of years of frustration with the so-called Big 3 in this country, and the nanny-state CRTC apparatus which, while it theoretically oversees them to regulate and supervise broadcasting and telecommunications <cough> "in the public interest", more often than not does little more than to tacitly shield them. 

 

Besides Verizon among others has stated more than once they have no interest in this market, which is lilliputian by their standards. Compared to the dollars involved in other more important markets such as their $130 billion USD stake in Vodafone a few years ago why would any of them consider Canada which is a guppy and would be more trouble than any potential profits are worth, and especially since Bell/Rogers/Telus between them have 95% of the market?

 

Not clear why you focused on the "mobility pricing" piece. As far as I am aware, beyond the lousy optics of the timing of the Bell layoffs, they will presumably have zero impact on mobility pricing: I assume you are aware the Canadian telecom/carriers do provide other services, correct?

 

However since you brought it up they will have a massive impact on the radio properties @ Bell, especially the layoffs at CJAD, which is one of the flagship stations in Canada.

 

Not that I imagine Bell - recipient of all things of $122 million in federal wage subsidies in spite of having well over five billion dollars available liquidity, share dividends up 5% year over year and boosting said dividend payouts to shareholders, and all of that despite Covid - sees much if anything beyond operating profit margins. As with Telus and Rogers, both of whom we have been subscribers to in the past, I'm fairly certain the "customer" is a long way from the top of their priority list.

 

Note: just to be fair and to show I'm not picking only on Bell, in addition to them bellying up to the public trough for handouts in the amount noted above at least $82 million was scooped up by Rogers and another $38.5 million by Telus. Bell’s $122 million was nevertheless more than any other company in any marketplace sector, even topping Imperial Oil’s $120 million.


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