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Turner Building
Uses: rental, commercial
Address: 2002-2010 Richmond Road
Municipality: Victoria
Region: Urban core
Storeys: 6
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[Victoria - Jubilee] Turner Building redevelopment | Residential; retail | 6-storeys


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#21 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 12:52 PM

Does the flagging that's now around the building mean that demolition is planned?


CTV says the City put it up because parts of it fell off in a wind storm. Not sure how long the City will put up with it, if the owner does not make corrections soon.
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#22 Bingo

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 03:57 PM

Not sure how long the City will put up with it, if the owner does not make corrections soon.


Right, with that much rot the whole roof could blow off onto Richmond in the next big windstorm.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 04:09 PM

A new building could be three or four storeys. How about penthouses on top and lower cost small apartments for students and low-income hospital staff. I would nominate architect Franc D'Ambrosio as he is the master of the low-rise, high quality mixed use building.


The old house next door is on a huge chunk of property that if combined with the Turner lot, have plenty to offer.

The haunted house next door...at least it looks like it is.




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Posted 23 October 2013 - 09:36 PM

Looks like Ian's Coffee Shop/Turner's may be history in as little as three weeks. Read the City report, complete with colour photos:

https://victoria.civ...chmond Road.pdf

Seeing the kitchen tools nearly stored right where Ian left them amid the rotting wreckage of his beloved restaurant is heartbreaking.
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Posted 24 October 2013 - 07:41 AM

Looks like Ian's Coffee Shop/Turner's may be history in as little as three weeks. Read the City report, complete with colour photos:

https://victoria.civ...chmond Road.pdf

Seeing the kitchen tools nearly stored right where Ian left them amid the rotting wreckage of his beloved restaurant is heartbreaking.


Anyone catch Shellie Gudgeon on CBC this morning talking about this? Further proof that she has zero business being a city councillor, she couldn't answer a simple process question. I ain't no fancy city councillor, but even I know that if your building becomes a safety issue or if you ignore bylaw infraction warnings, the City will vote to move in and remediate, fronting the bill and then passing it on to the property owner.

I can't believe that she not only whiffed on a typical Gregor Craigie softball lob, but she tripped over her own bat. If this is what the "business community" has to offer, we might as well forego elections and install Boss Dean-o and his gang of cronies as Mayor & Council for life.

#26 jonny

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 07:54 AM

My spouse's grandmother tried to buy the Turner's building for years. This icon could have been saved, but the owners chose to let it rot instead.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 08:28 AM

^^ Would there be an audio vault file on that interview?

This council member communicates with the North Jubilee Community Association and this building has been a topic of concern for YEARS.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 09:52 AM

ironically she didn't maintain it, & it needs to be torn down now I guess because she wanted it to be preserved.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 03:42 PM

the cbc interviews can generally be heard via "podcast" on their site the next day. Bob Fugger please don't wish that on us sir. However the interview went, and I did hear it, there has to be hope in the future. During her interview with me on 29er Radio she came across as fairly intelligent and has had her hands in a number of successful Victoria eateries, which isn't an easy task.
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#30 Holden West

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 10:03 PM

It looks like Council is going to allow the Turner family some extra time to come up with a plan before demolition occurs. I think this is nonsense. I love the building but the family had years to save the building and I find it suspicious they suddenly want to save the building just before a hefty demolition bill comes to them.
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Posted 25 October 2013 - 01:00 PM

It would a developer with deep pockets and a vision for saving heritage even when it is not cost effective. I think it is well beyond the family and community to get the money together to save the building.

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 01:06 PM

It doesn't look like there's much left to save...disgusting that the family could have the gall to wait all these years, refuse offers to sell the building, take zero care of the building and then now request an extension.

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 01:26 PM

Even if someone with a big heart and deep pockets wanted to lose money on "preserving" this building, the only possible way to "save" it at this point would be a complete tear down and rebuild. I doubt there's a kilo of salvageable materials left in the structure. For sure it's a sentimental, if not architectural loss, but it's about 10 years too late for any sort of preservation to take place now. :whyme:

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 01:45 PM

It looks like Council is going to allow the Turner family some extra time to come up with a plan before demolition occurs. I think this is nonsense. I love the building but the family had years to save the building and I find it suspicious they suddenly want to save the building just before a hefty demolition bill comes to them.


Is there an article on this, or council discussion minutes, or?

I don't think this building can be saved. I have been reporting to the city for quite some time that the building was infested with rats as big as cats.

I think those buggers have chewed through everything.

#35 Jacques Cadé

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 02:10 PM

Is there an article on this, or council discussion minutes, or?


Sparky, the staff report is here, and you can watch last night's Council discussion here. The Turner building at 2002 Richmond is the last item on the agenda.

There's also a story in the Times Colonist, at http://www.timescolo...ilding-1.672354

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 02:35 PM

^ Bless you. Sorry I didn't get a chance to chat with you the other night. Next time !!

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 03:32 PM

I was watching the council meeting webcast last night. Councillor Alto made the motion to extend the deadlines from 7 and 14 days to 14 and 28 days in hopes that there'd be a chance something will be done with it.

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 05:20 PM

Councillor Alto made the motion to extend the deadlines from 7 and 14 days to 14 and 28 days in hopes that there'd be a chance something will be done with it.

The vermin will enjoy the reprieve.

#39 Holden West

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 08:36 PM

I was watching the council meeting webcast last night. Councillor Alto made the motion to extend the deadlines from 7 and 14 days to 14 and 28 days in hopes that there'd be a chance something will be done with it.


It's not like Staff pulled that date out of their ass--obviously they feel this is an emergency; the building is literally falling apart. True, the building is roped off and there is no direct danger but that doesn't stop squatters and pedestrians and cyclists are forced into the roadway. I think this extension is very generous and hope the Turners use it in a productive and sincere way.
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#40 mikesevigny

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 10:39 PM

Even the taggers know the building is dangerous, I've been by there in the morning a few times and someone's put up something along the lines of "TEAR THIS THING DOWN ALREADY". They cover those ones up pretty quickly.

It's sad because it clearly used to be a pretty cool building with some history in the neighborhood, and it'd be great to see something like it put up in its place, but I don't want the wind blowing the roof off and flattening me on my way to work.

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