the dominion rocket garbage bins etc. sure enhance it.
APPROVED Montrose Wintergarden/Spire Hotel Uses: hotel, commercial Address: 780-798 Fort Street Municipality: Victoria Region: Downtown Victoria Storeys: 20 |
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[Downtown] Montrose Wintergarden Hotel | 66.9 meters
#121
Posted 17 February 2021 - 02:27 PM
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#122
Posted 17 February 2021 - 02:27 PM
An effective FSR of 9.13:1 which is far denser than the current record holder which I believe is the venerable Belmont Building at around 7:1.
And right next to the island's finest cathedral. I'm not trying to shoot it down, just saying it's a hell of a bold ask.
A bold ask, yes, but it's a bold building. If it were another Yates on Yates asking for an FSR of 9:1 and a height of 65 m, I would be much less inclined to give it the time of day. This one has a striking design, and I absolutely love the copper cladding. That alone will go a long way in setting this building apart in the skyline.
This is one of those projects where it would have been interesting to see a reaction and letter based on the design only, with the plans completely stripped of density and height. Those two numbers become a fixation that distracts from what is being proposed.
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#123
Posted 17 February 2021 - 02:34 PM
A bold ask, yes, but it's a bold building. If it were another Yates on Yates asking for an FSR of 9:1 and a height of 65 m, I would be much less inclined to give it the time of day. This one has a striking design, and I absolutely love the copper cladding. That alone will go a long way in setting this building apart in the skyline.
Well, that's the thing right, you have to bring something to the table. And that's important because you know that now every surrounding building has a new price tag on it, and the neighbourhood property owners are swooning over that magic 9:1 ratio like a 1970s teenage girl over Donny Osmond.
But there's a risk and we can recall some recent projects that were approved for extraordinary height based on the quality of the design but as the plans progressed that exciting design became much less visually dynamic and we're left with a very ordinary tall tower with the surrounding property owners crying, if he gets that height, why can't we?.
Edited by Rob Randall, 17 February 2021 - 02:36 PM.
#124
Posted 17 February 2021 - 11:40 PM
I like the design overall, just wish it was a bit taller so that it actually made an impact on the skyline.
Not a fan of the brown/rust colouring though.
#125
Posted 18 February 2021 - 11:16 AM
I think Rob Randall should be on City Council. Run, Rob, run.
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#126
Posted 18 February 2021 - 11:23 AM
I like the design overall, just wish it was a bit taller so that it actually made an impact on the skyline.
Not a fan of the brown/rust colouring though.
The plans say it's a copper-coloured metal cladding, so not the same stuff they've put on The Ironworks. If it is actually copper-coloured, and not a flat brown, I think it will be quite striking and a welcome change from the blues, greens, and greys we usually see these days.
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#127
Posted 18 February 2021 - 11:27 AM
I think Rob Randall should be on City Council. Run, Rob, run.
I've been trying to convince you guys the thing Victoria needs most is more Saanich residents on council.
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#128
Posted 18 February 2021 - 11:30 AM
And fewer Fernwood residents.
#129
Posted 18 February 2021 - 12:49 PM
Build this tower right next to the Hudson's district would be perfect.
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#130
Posted 18 February 2021 - 02:07 PM
Build this tower right next to the Hudson's district would be perfect.
Not really. There's no good reason to group all the tallest buildings downtown in the same area.
#131
Posted 18 February 2021 - 02:13 PM
^There is a reason, it's just a matter whether you subscribe to it or not. Some prefer the idea of highrises in clusters. For instance, the Hudson cluster, the Bayview cluster. Others prefer highrises scattered evenly.
What I'm seeing now is City Hall moving toward the more random approach with towers about Hudson height at several locations.
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#132
Posted 05 March 2021 - 11:02 AM
The heritage designation part of this proposal was considered at Heritage Advisory Panel last month, and the minutes are now available: https://www.victoria...APL Minutes.pdf
Summary: developer does not proposed seismic upgrades, HAP recommends support only if seismic upgrades and storefront restoration are included
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#133
Posted 05 March 2021 - 11:11 AM
...Summary: developer does not proposed seismic upgrades, HAP recommends support only if seismic upgrades and storefront restoration are included
I don't see this as an unreasonable request as long as the city doesn't demand a tower only half as tall as proposed.
#134
Posted 26 March 2021 - 02:14 PM
This is going to COTW on Thursday April 1. Staff are in support of this moving to a public hearing (not an April Fool's Day joke!).
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#135
Posted 01 April 2021 - 04:04 PM
This is going to COTW on Thursday April 1. Staff are in support of this moving to a public hearing (not an April Fool's Day joke!).
A proposal for a 20-storey hotel at Fort and Blanshard streets will be heading to a public hearing following a Thursday morning vote by Victoria councillors.
Discussions will continue with developer Merchant House Capital about ways to protect tenants as the neighbouring three-storey 1912 Montrose building is upgraded in coming years.
https://www.timescol...ring-1.24302257
Edited by Victoria Watcher, 01 April 2021 - 04:05 PM.
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#136
Posted 03 April 2021 - 12:08 PM
Stephen Andrew put this one out on his FB page for public response and feedback and predictably all the complainers and whiners and bleaters and haters of anything built after 1955 came out in droves with usual BS nimby commentary - its too much like Vancouver, it will become a mini-Vancouver, it too tall, its too tall for Victoria, it will cast too much shade, it will overpower the cathedral, yadda yadda yadda. My favorite comment was that it was "un-Victorian" - whatever the hell that means. Good grief Victoria is a city, not some musty museum standing still in a vacuum in time - much as some of these people clearly wish it were so.
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#137
Posted 29 October 2021 - 01:57 PM
This is going to a public hearing on Thursday Nov 4.
#138
Posted 29 October 2021 - 01:58 PM
Something tells me this one isn't in for an easy ride.
#139
Posted 29 October 2021 - 02:03 PM
Something tells me this one isn't in for an easy ride.
I think it will be approved; there is a need for hotel space downtown at the moment, and I think the retention of the existing rental apartments in the Montrose building is a 'plus'.
#140
Posted 29 October 2021 - 02:12 PM
Approved as proposed, or approved at half the height?
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