Waste Management / Hartland Landfill

Same ending, just processed a bit differently

I haven't tried any bones in mine, but I suspect it isn't designed for that.

No, they are good to take bones, it's actually is good for the blades. Chicken bones etc., maybe not big ribeye steak bones.

Feed batch of ice cubes through to keep it clean.

No, they are good to take bones, it's actually is good for the blades. Chicken bones etc., maybe not big ribeye steak bones.

I'll have to try some chicken bones then. After all, I did buy the 1 horse model

I'll have to try some chicken bones then. After all, I did buy the 1 horse model

Ya, I upgraded to the monster model when my original one gave up. Living in a condo, with no car in the basement, I don't go down to the garbage very often, so it's nice to get rid of potentially smelly garbage a more effective way.

I stopped going to the Hartland Landfill when I discovered D & L Bins at the north end of Oldfield Road. First of all they close at 5:00 PM instead of 2:00 PM on Saturdays. No lineup (or very little at peak times) and you can throw recycle materials out with landfill.

They do the sorting.

Drywall, kitchen waste, paint cans, batteries, wood, garden waste, tree limbs etc. All in one location with nobody poking at your bags and asking questions.

Delightful.

that is good info!

What if your garburetor was a robot, able to not merely digest food but use it as energy to do other things?

http://www.newscient.../mg20727695.700

Won't this affect The Hartland Landfill Gas Utilization project? Less organics, less gas produced?

I stopped going to the Hartland Landfill when I discovered D & L Bins at the north end of Oldfield Road. First of all they close at 5:00 PM instead of 2:00 PM on Saturdays. No lineup (or very little at peak times) and you can throw recycle materials out with landfill.

They do the sorting.

Drywall, kitchen waste, paint cans, batteries, wood, garden waste, tree limbs etc. All in one location with nobody poking at your bags and asking questions.

Delightful.

Is it any cheaper than Elise?

Won't this affect The Hartland Landfill Gas Utilization project? Less organics, less gas produced?

I thought they were going to relocate the gas recovery system to city hall

Oops, sorry.. I must be confusing gas and hot air

What if your garburetor was a robot, able to not merely digest food but use it as energy to do other things?

http://www.newscient.../mg20727695.700

How do you know mine isn't already? I didn't post a photo of mine like seb did - and for a reason.

Is it any cheaper than Elise?

Good question. It would be easy to call all three and ask how they calculate their charges. Personally, whatever the difference might be would not be enough to change my mind. Ease of doing business is more important to me, especially on a Saturday when time is precious.

The pure convenience of Ellice beats out lower cost option outside the city. It is the only place I go.

There is also Alpine disposal and recycling in Langford, fast, handy and helpful employees.

^ Just got back from Elice Recycle. Slooooow.

There is also Alpine disposal and recycling in Langford, fast, handy and helpful employees.

I dislike Alpine disposal and recycling. When I need to take household garbage (since Saanich only allows one can), Alpine makes me sort out everything from inside the bag, such as plastic, paper, etc. Hartland Landfill is a bit more distance, however, since my roommate has a Honda Fit hatchback, all we do is just back up and dump...no questions asked, and it's cheaper than Alpine!

I dislike Alpine disposal and recycling. When I need to take household garbage (since Saanich only allows one can), Alpine makes me sort out everything from inside the bag, such as plastic, paper, etc. Hartland Landfill is a bit more distance, however, since my roommate has a Honda Fit hatchback, all we do is just back up and dump...no questions asked, and it's cheaper than Alpine!

Really? I went to Hartland once and was in a line up for about 40 minutes, I never returned.

Since Alpine does our local garbage pickup you can have as many cans as you want to pay for so my trips there are mainly for larger single items that don't fit in the can.

Really? I went to Hartland once and was in a line up for about 40 minutes, I never returned.

Since Alpine does our local garbage pickup you can have as many cans as you want to pay for so my trips there are mainly for larger single items that don't fit in the can.

Alpine doesn't serve Saanich, not that I know of at least. When I used to live in Colwood, they had a maximum of one can, and if you had extra garbage, they wouldn't pick it up. Whenever I go to Hartland, they just wave me and my buddy though, we back up, dump, and pay. No rush, except we go during the week around 2pm-4pm. Maybe they're busy at night and morning periods. Can't beat the price though! I just dumped an old TV that nobody wanted even for free, and it only costed $12...

We are closely comming up to a Hartland Landfill tour on Wednesday. Concorde suggested that while we are there, we ask why Alpine Disposal trucks their materials to the mainland.

I am going to go out on a limb here and say the answer is "cost."

At first glance I thought that it couldn't possibly be cheaper to truck garbage to the mainland instead of disposing of it here in sunny Victoria.

Alpine has contracts not only with some local municipalities, but Duncan, Nanaimo, Kelowna, Trail, Castlegar, Creston, and Grand Forks.

There is a facility in Cache Creek (pronounced ca$h) that takes the majority of waste from Metro Vancouver, and their retail tipping charges are 20 % below Hartland's.

I am sure large volume customers negotiate special pricing. Perhaps if shipping costs eat up half of the savings, it may still be worthwhile.

Stay tuned for an in depth report on where your crap may end up.

Excerpts from a very interesting article from 2005:

City of Gardens was once a city of garbage:
Ringuette, Janis. Times-Colonist
03 July 2005:

Families heading to the beach this summer won't need to pack a garbage rake. But it was a different story in the days when the City of Victoria dumped its refuse into the ocean...

From 1908 to 1958, municipal workers loaded garbage on scows at the city's garbage wharf near the Blue Bridge. A tug towed the scows past Ogden Point and dumped the garbage into the ocean.

Most of it floated, and prevailing winds were from the south. Depending on tide and wind conditions, the garbage could wash up on Dallas Road beaches before the scow tied up at the wharf.

Tin cans, bottles, paper cartons, grapefruit skins and old shoes accumulated in Horseshoe Bay, Gonzales Bay and from Clover Point to Ogden Point.

One March day in 1953, Esquimalt resident Roy Wellwood measured garbage stretching "300 feet long, three feet wide and six inches deep" on the beach at the foot of Lampson Street.

According to the Daily Colonist, a total of 26,000 tons was loaded into scows and dumped at sea in 1952. That total included garbage trucked from Oak Bay and Esquimalt to Victoria's garbage wharf.

Victoria adopted the scow system in 1908 after years of garbage problems on land. Smelly open dumps burned constantly in five areas of the city, attracting rats, flies, gulls and unending complaints from neighbours. Ocean dumping solved all those problems and was cheap besides.

...garbage dumped even four or five miles out would still return to city beaches. "If we sat around waiting for the right wind before we sent the scow out, what would we do with the stuff piling onto the wharf every hour? It's impractical."

Health officials requested the garbage wharf be relocated in 1953 because of its proximity to a meat packing plant and other food warehouses downtown.

In March, 1954, city medical officer Dr. J.L. Gayton recommended that ocean dumping be replaced with a sanitary landfill. He said the only way to eliminate garbage on beaches was to quit dumping it in the sea. Mayor Claude Harrison agreed the downtown garbage wharf was "a filthy mess" and City Engineer Cyril Jones thought it should be abandoned.

At last, in 1958, the City of Victoria ended the practice of dumping garbage at sea. "I am very happy that we have reached the end of garbage drifting back on the beaches," Mayor Percy Scurrah said. The Daily Colonist concluded the City was truly "rid of the floating garbage problem."

The downtown garbage wharf continued operating for another 28 years as a transfer point for garbage destined for the Hartland landfill site. When it closed in 1986, city engineer John Sansom said: "A garbage operation is not really a downtown thing. It's smelly, dusty and it attracts the seagulls."

Though Victoria ended ocean dumping in 1958, B.C. Ferries continued throwing garbage overboard for another 25 years.