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#41 gumgum

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 05:23 PM

So there a few more things planned for this development: A women's clothing store called Mercedes something or other, an art gallery of some sort and a dog biscuit booth/ cart. Yeah you read right. Just a women selling her homemade dog biscuits. I'm not one of those dog owners that thinks my dog is a baby and should be pampered like one - but hey - she'll do well in the neighbourhood. She had a promo table setup today and the bags were going for 2 or 3 bucks a pop. No more expensive than any other pet store mass produced stuff. Really though -now that I think of it - why didn't anybody else think of that?? There are SO MANY DOGS and yuppies willing to pay, it truly is a goldmine!

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 05:46 PM

Re dogs: I saw an ad in Vancouver-based Modern Dog magazine for bottled water for dogs. Enriched, purified, filtered water for dogs! Bottled water for dogs, who have the equivalent of hydrochloric acid in their gut, dogs that can drink puddle water off the road.

Proof positive of the end of the world, people. Not prosperity, but revolution, is just around the corner.

(PS: I love dogs and have a dog of my own. But really now.)

(PPS: I'm really glad to see things moving again with that project.)
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#43 gumgum

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 06:04 PM

I actually saw a pink toy poodle yesterday. Couldn't believe it.

#44 GRT

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 06:40 PM

Walked by the old dry cleaners today and there's stuff happening! Anyone know what?

#45 Ms. B. Havin

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 08:10 PM

I've heard that the owner has permits now, and work is proceeding. The building will house various sorts of retail, including some artisan clothing (I think - could be wrong!), and more food outlets. There's going to be a connector/ steps to the food court on McKenzie, too.
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 08:19 PM

I hope they have enough space to fit in an interac/credit card machine, I know the existing one is simply too small to fit one of these huge machines.
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#47 Ms. B. Havin

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 08:56 PM

^ Interesting question. But here's something I didn't know: the banks charge vendors an outrageous amount per transaction, so given that the vendors the owner hopes to attract aren't big players, they might not have an interest in having that service.

There's a bank across the street (Royal Bank), which has an ATM. If you need money from your account, you can use their machine (and pay the outrageous fee if your bank isn't RBC). If there's debit at the Food Court, the vendors pay the outrageous fees.
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 09:17 PM

No debit means no business from me.

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 09:37 PM

Even the smallest most hole in the all shops I've been in have interac/credit machines of some sort. I know they charge for the service, but they also bring in more customers potentially. I guess this place has made the business choice/gamble not to have them. Things are obviously working out for them, but I wonder if overall things could be even better (or worse) if they accepted credit cards.
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 09:58 PM

I think most businesses give in because customers feel entitled to Interac and get pissed if they can't use it. It is a pain if you don't notice the sign before you make a purchase.
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#51 Ms. B. Havin

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 10:06 PM

I guess this place has made the business choice/gamble not to have them. Things are obviously working out for them, but I wonder if overall things could be even better (or worse) if they accepted credit cards.

I'm not sure why you're assuming this. I wrote that "the vendors ... aren't big players" (bubble tea, artisan clothing maybe), and that therefore "they might not have an interest in having that service," not "they don't have an interest in having that service."

Frankly, I don't know who exactly is coming into the space or whether they'll have debit or not. Nor do I make any assumptions about whether anything is working out for them. That's for future discussion.

I don't think the vendors in the existing food court on McKenzie take plastic, but I could be wrong.
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#52 G-Man

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 05:36 AM

The thai place certainly doesn't which i am always forgetting...

#53 gumgum

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 05:52 AM

None of them do and it's stupid. Not that I expect the new outdoor vendors to have it.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 06:34 AM

[quote name='Ms. B. Havin']^ Interesting question. But here's something I didn't know: the banks charge vendors an outrageous amount per transaction, so given that the vendors the owner hopes to attract aren't big players, they might not have an interest in having that service.

There are two kinds of ATM's - the ones affiliated with banks and "white label" ones. The bank ATM's charge a lower transaction fee to the debit card holder, especially if the machine happens to be from the bank the debit card holder uses regularly. The white label machines charge everyone a larger fee, but the folks who provide these machines will put them in places the banks won't.

With respect to debit card fees, the merchant pays the bank a standard 15 or so cents per transaction, regardless of the amount ,which is why merchants often have minimum transaction amounts. For credit cards, the merchants pay the banks a % of the transaction amount. The more business, the lower the fee, so it can be expensive for small business owners to provide credit card services. And, of course, for both debit and credit card transactions, the merchant has to pay to rent the machine and provide a dedicated phone line.

A little credit/debit 101 :)

#55 gumgum

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 07:00 AM

Taking that into account, it still makes no sense to me why the current indoor vendors wouldn't have debit. I don't know have many times I've avoided the food there because I didn't have any cash. How many customers are they turning away by not having debit? My guess is they would see a significant jump in business if they added that option.
I percieve this "no debit" thing as almost arrogant. It's like a little voice under the surface telling me "You want to eat here, you're going to have to jump through this small hoop to prove your worthiness of our drop-dead amazing food."
Sorry, but the food isn't that great.

#56 manuel

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 09:48 AM

If my memory serves me correct, the owner didn't want the connections, but this could be wrong. Fantastico has at least credit card at its other locations, and the Thai place has easily enough business.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 08:40 PM

You can put in your own private label ATM and reap some of the charges for yourself.
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#58 phx

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 09:26 PM

I don't know why people use debit so much. Is it such a burden to carry cash? I just don't trust computers.

#59 Nparker

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 09:39 PM

When I withdraw cash from an ATM it all gets spent. Debit allows me to better monitor and control what I spend. I know some would say it should be the reverse, but this system works for me. Besides, if lose my wallet I never lose a lot of cash.

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 08:16 AM

You can put in your own private label ATM and reap some of the charges for yourself.


You bet, these white label machines do pay a dividend to the business that provides the space. This is paid for by increased fees to those who withdraw from them.

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