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[lanforod]

No, I don't think commuter rail is the way to go here long term either. Forget this idea of into town in the morning and out in the evening. Do a loop route that gets you to the major points of our region, for 18-20 hours of the day.

[Victoria Watcher]

Loop routes are despised.

There is a strong chance robotaxis will make mass public transit obsolete pretty soon.

Better to just keep the roads in good shape.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, Today, 07:16 AM.

[Mike K.]

The costs are atrocious, however. If we think $3 is too much for transit, judging how many people simply don’t pay, imagine the cost if we start laying track and rolling trolleys. And we’d need to have a maintenance yard for them, too. That wouldn’t be cheap nor would the land be easy to find.

My biggest challenge with the system is unreliability currently. Too many buses you depend on, just don’t show up. The second biggest issue is drivers no longer manage courtesy like they once did. Two goofballs acting stupid can ruin the whole experience for everyone, and the driver doesn’t care, because they’ve been prohibited from engaging.

[dasmo]

No, I don't think commuter rail is the way to go here long term either. Forget this idea of into town in the morning and out in the evening. Do a loop route that gets you to the major points of our region, for 18-20 hours of the day.

This is true. Changing social norms plus robot drivers changing things a lot. The arteries is what should be looked at not necessarily for rail in a traditional sense. The E&N is the only other artery though the Thetis pinch point. The bike path is great but the right away (that still is intact) can support another mode if it behaves predictably like rail. China is doing Autonomous Rapid Transit that runs on roads but behaves like trains. 

[max.bravo]

I think vw is right. Robo taxis are a much better option than investing in public transit.

Unfortunately BC legislation will somehow make it all but impossible here, like they did with Uber. Ten year late and they ruined what was good about the innovative model.

[dasmo]

Absolutely can’t ignore robo driving in this context.

[splashflash]

Absolutely can’t ignore robo driving in this context.

It's happening. https://vibrantvicto...672#entry793056

[dasmo]

It's happening. https://vibrantvicto...672#entry793056

Yep. China has this going on too.