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[Mike K.]

Initial police report is just based on one witness.

They state witnesses, so that implies there were more people who saw the crash, other than the driver who was struck. We don’t know for sure if they themselves recall the details.

[Mike K.]

I'm not sure what you are taking issue with. These are the only two sentences describing the collision. The first one talks about the "strike" and the second modifies to say that Ranns was probably the cause.






Daniel Ranns died after his small westbound pickup was struck by an eastbound one-tonne truck on Hwy 18 on Sunday afternoon.
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Per police, who did not name Daniel Ranns in their release, a witnesses indicated his vehicle may have drifted into the other lane.

Both are false statements, in the GoFundMe.

Police said there were witnesses, not one witness.

Police also said the compact truck struck the one-tonne.
The quote describes the exact opposite at first, then it says it “may” have struck the other vehicle by drifting into its lane. Police don’t say it may have, they said it did.

There is revisionism taking place here. Is the source the GFM?

[Mike K.]

Police: “According to witnesses, a westbound compact pickup truck drifted into the oncoming lane where it impacted an eastbound one-tonne pickup.”

Sourced quote: “Daniel Ranns died after his small westbound pickup was struck by an eastbound one-tonne truck on Hwy 18 on Sunday afternoon. …Per police, who did not name Daniel Ranns in their release, a witnesses indicated his vehicle may have drifted into the other lane.”

Those statements are completely at odds. They are implying a big truck killed the young man, that he was a victim. I do not think it is appropriate to create that impression.

[Victoria Watcher]

In a head-on collission, I don't think you can say one vehicle struck the other, or the opposite.  The only question is, where did the collision occur (which lane)?

[Victoria Watcher]

Did you actually read the GoFundMe?  I did:

 

 

 

 

We are heartbroken to share that Daniel Ranns, a vibrant 18-year-old who touched the lives of everyone he met, tragically lost his life in a car accident on Sunday, November 3rd. Daniel was full of life, laughter, and love. He was a talented lacrosse player, passionate about the outdoors, and deeply connected to his friends, family, and community.

 

To help ease the burden on his family—Adam, Dawn, Rosie, Benjamin, and Jenna—we are coming together to raise funds in Daniel’s honor. These donations will go directly to supporting them as they navigate this unimaginable loss and allow them the time to grieve without the immediate financial strain.

 

Daniel's memory will forever live on in the hearts of those who knew him. We are asking for your support in honoring his life and uplifting the Ranns family during this painful time. Any contribution, no matter how small, would mean the world to them.

 

Thank you for your kindness, generosity, and support.

 

In loving memory of Daniel Ranns.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 07 November 2024 - 07:50 AM.

[Mike K.]

No, that’s not true. If witnesses say one vehicle crossed the line, the fault lies with that vehicle.

[Victoria Watcher]

No, that’s not true. If witnesses say one vehicle crossed the line, the fault lies with that vehicle.

 

I did not speak to fault.  I am speaking to the terminology of the crash.  One car striking another, or vice versa.  

 

If your car is stopped and my car crashes into you, I'd say I struck you.   Does not speak to fault.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 07 November 2024 - 07:53 AM.

[Mike K.]

Is this not the GoFundMe?

You posted this, attributing it to GoFundMe.

The Westshore:




Hwy 18 crash kills Metchosin teen—a lacrosse player and the former mayor's grandson

Daniel Ranns via GoFundMe

Daniel Ranns died after his small westbound pickup was struck by an eastbound one-tonne truck on Hwy 18 on Sunday afternoon. Ranns, 18, the grandson of former longtime Metchosin mayor John Ranns, recently graduated from Royal Bay Secondary in Colwood.
Ranns, an eight-term mayor, said that the family is devastated and the the teen was on a trip to look into buying a trailer that he could live in on the family farm. He told the Times Colonist that the 6’5” Daniel was often carrying younger family members on his shoulders, and that the family appreciates the love and support coming in but asks for privacy.
The young lacrosse player, whose parents both coach lacrosse, was remembered by his Westshore Bears coach as a hard worker with a “heart of gold.” JDF Lacrosse remembered him as a player and assistant coach who had a “warm heart and unwavering kindness" that touched everyone around him.
Family friends began a fundraiser, which has nearly reached its $45k goal.
Per police, who did not name Daniel Ranns in their release, a witnesses indicated his vehicle may have drifted into the other lane. Crews tried to free the teen from the wreckage, but he was later pronounced dead. The roadway was shut for some time and the driver of the other truck was hospitalized with what RCMP say appeared to be minor injuries.

[Victoria Watcher]

Nope, you twisted it all completely around.  AND you were too lazy to even read the GFM.

 

All I did was clip and paste from WS verbatim.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 07 November 2024 - 07:54 AM.

[Mike K.]

What are you even sourcing, man?

[Victoria Watcher]

The daily WestShore news bulletin from Overstory Media.

[Mike K.]

A bit of a dog’s breakfast then.

So they (the newsletter) editorialized it, and misrepresented the facts. That makes more sense. It looked to me, like you copied and pasted the GFM page.

[Victoria Watcher]

I can't link an email or you know I would have provided the link.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mike K.]

I thought you were posting the text of the GFM.

It’s not good to see this degree of editorializing. What else are they editorializing?

[Barrister]

The police are very good at establishing the point of impact in most crashes, lets leave it to them.