418 replies to this topic

[Contractorguy]

I don’t think most seniors want to be segregated into a city for old people.

you obviously haven't been to Florida haha

 

ah yes, the Wedge, oh the stories I've heard.  good times

[Mike K.]

Primarily snowbirds, no?

They buy the cheapest places they can, in segregated seniors communities, then spend a few months of the year there. It’s no different than going on vacation.

Americans also like gated communities targeted at particular groups. Canada doesn’t have much in that regard, so we’re talking about different cultures here and down there.

[Barrister]

A significant portion of retirees that move to Victoria dont have any family here in the first place. Yes, there is the local population but building a great retirement town with fantastic medical services would appeal to a lot of people moving from Vancouver, Calgary and Toronto.

 

Generally, if you are moving to the Island you dont move your kids and grandkids as well. 

[Mike K.]

If we could create fantastic medical services, wouldn’t we be creating them now?

Socialized healthcare isn’t particularly keen on serving seniors. They require the most complex care, more hospital visits, and require care more often. Doctors much prefer younger demographics if they can help it.

[GRT2]

The funeral home is hardly integrated with the rest of the structure, besides replicating its (IMO) clumsy mishmash of geometric shapes throughout the rest of the design. It just looks like an awkward add-on, is dwarfed by the rest of the development, and again, creates a dead zone along Vancouver Street when other nearby projects like Ventana, 1008 Pandora, and 989 Johnson will enhance the pedestrian realm along the street.
 

 

The funeral home creates "a dead zone along Vancouver Street".  LOL
 

[GRT2]

Geez, all  this talk about dying seniors in segregated communities ...  I'm a boomer who is not planning to check out just yet, lol

[LJ]

They buy the cheapest places they can, in segregated seniors communities, then spend a few months of the year there. It’s no different than going on vacation.

 

The houses in age restricted communities are by no means the cheapest option in housing, far from it.

About 60% of the residents are full time, the rest "come from away."

[Mike K.]

Obviously not the cheapest option like you’ll find on cockroach lane, but they’re also the cheapest option, know what I mean?

[Contractorguy]

Primarily snowbirds, no?

They buy the cheapest places they can, in segregated seniors communities, then spend a few months of the year there. It’s no different than going on vacation.

Americans also like gated communities targeted at particular groups. Canada doesn’t have much in that regard, so we’re talking about different cultures here and down there.

I think that is somewhat true, but there are a lot of retired people who live there full time after retiring from the NE like Boston, NYC, Philadelphia and they don't buy the cheapest places

 

yes true Americans love their gated communities.  given the homeless problems we are facing up here, its not a bad idea.  Thanks Nby and Trudeau

 

regardless I don't think Victoria has much of a snowbird population?  Only reason I can think of being here is if you are oh 80+ and can't get health insurance or its too expensive to get if you want to leave the country

[Mike K.]

We had among the lowest rates of secondary/part of the year empty homes compared to the rest of Canada, even before the NDP introduced the spec tax, so we don’t have a lot of snowbirds but we do draw a lot of full time retirees.

You’re right though, a lot of seniors eventually return here for the healthcare that they can’t afford wherever they choose to snowbird.

[Barrister]

Health insurance when you are travelling is super expensive as you get older. Not a big issue for us since we only travel mostly to the US these days.(We have Medicare so we are not in the same boat as most people). 

[LJ]

Obviously not the cheapest option like you’ll find on cockroach lane, but they’re also the cheapest option, know what I mean?

No, I sure don't.

 

This is one example, of many, not the most expensive, not the cheapest...

 

https://www.sheahome...tique-community

 

These are family homes here, not age restricted, again not the most expensive, not the cheapest...

 

https://www.taylormo...ommunities&mt=0

Edited by LJ, 31 October 2024 - 07:41 PM.

[Mike K.]

One thing’s for sure, for the price of a Victoria 1BR condo, literally, you can buy a brand new large house in Phoenix.

That’s nuts.

[Contractorguy]

You can get a house in Saskatchewan for under 50k  https://www.realtor....e-w-gravelbourg

 

Affordable housing problem solved.  Move!

[Mike K.]

And then what?

[Contractorguy]

And then what?

no idea who you are talking to, but I'll assume its me

 

people leave and taxpayers don't have to buy up hotels and motels, developers don't have to provide low cost housing which simply inflates the cost of other people who are buying

 

Look, desirable expensive cities are expensive and based on simple supply and demand Victoria prices have shot up because drum roll please...people want to live here and are willing to pay for it.  NYC is a very expensive city yet people are willing to live and work there and I've seen NYC city jobs in the mailroom paying less than $20/hr.  Ditto with Boston, Seattle, San Francisco, Vancouver, Toronto and many others.  Its not my job to pay money out of my pocket for people to live here.  Either pay the market rents/housing prices or move to Saskatchewan!

[Victoria Watcher]

There is an endless supply of white knights (mostly women) that relentlessly campaign for more of your money to support the homeless industry.

[Sparky]

^^ Like this $49,900 SFH in Regina. That's less than a new car.

 

https://www.properst...sting/101289040

[Contractorguy]

There is an endless supply of white knights (mostly women) that relentlessly campaign for more of your money to support the homeless industry.

and given the massive deficits that are piling up, we aren't paying enough taxes