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[Victoria Watcher]

[spanky123]

^^ Really low weight allowances for baggage (12 lbs for the $149 fare, 20 lbs if you want to pay $209 each way). 

[vortoozo]

That's consistent with their floatplane service, isn't it?

[Matt R.]

So you don’t need to go through security? What’s the threshold for that.

[Victoria Watcher]

So you don’t need to go through security? What’s the threshold for that.

 

 

 

Checking-in at the Airport

• All guests MUST check-in at their respective airport:
• YVR Vancouver International Airport (SOUTH TERMINAL)
• YYJ Victoria International Airport
• Check-in opens: 1 hour before departure
• Check-in cut-off: 25 minutes before departure
• For guests checking luggage: we recommend arriving 1hr before departure

 

 

Security Screening

• Guests will go through CATSA security screening
• For information on restricted and prohibited items (e.g. liquids over 100ml), please see CATSA website

 

 

Luggage

• Guests have the option of carry-on and checked baggage
• Luggage allowance, sizes and pricing available here

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 19 September 2024 - 04:26 PM.

[Matt R.]

So, security on this side but not that side?

Oh wait, security on both sides? Lame. No security is like the whole point, plus downtown to downtown of course.

Edited by Matt R., 19 September 2024 - 04:29 PM.

[Sparky]

Both.

[Victoria Watcher]

Analysis: Pilot Error At The Heart Of Voepass ATR-72 Crash

 

CENIPA, the Brazilian accident investigation authority, recently released its preliminary report. This was far more comprehensive in terms of data than what we would normally get from the US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) at this stage of an investigation including a detailed timeline and FDR data. That report gives us a very detailed insight into what went wrong on this flight and how this tragic accident happened.

 

The answers are frankly disturbing and difficult to understand. Because the picture painted is one of a flight deck crew that does almost nothing right, failing at even basic tasks. Sadly, like all accidents it wasn’t one thing but rather a cascade of issues that led to the crash.

 

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Despite this after getting a fault in the airframe de-icing system the crew took no action to exit the conditions. At 16:18 CRUISE SPEED LOW comes on confirming that the aircraft is carrying ice. The fact that the airframe anti-icing system is switched on at 16:18 and off again after a single chime at 16:19 possibly indicates that it was faulted again. But note the sequence at 16:19. With airframe de-icing off the DEGRADED PERFORMACE alert is triggered and then the First Officer comments on how much ice there was. Airframe de-icing is selected back on at 16:20 but despite the presence of an indication of severe icing and an emergency situation the crew takes no action.

 

The final minute of the flight is chilling. At 16:20:50 they initiate a turn at 30 degrees angle of bank which unless they descend will increase the AOA putting the aircraft closer to a stall. Then 7 seconds later INCREASE SPEED is triggered along with airframe vibrations (which is the airplane telling you it’s literally about to stall and you need to react NOW) and then the stick shaker triggers. Despite all these events the crew does not apply the stall recovery procedure. They don’t lower the nose, they don’t push the power up, the don’t extend the flaps the only thing they do is increase the propellor RPM to 100%. 12 Seconds later all control of the aircraft is lost and it ultimately enters a flat spin.

 

 

https://liveandletsf...sh-pilot-error/

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 19 September 2024 - 04:39 PM.

[Mike K.]

So the Harbour Air flights will be airport to airport, not harbour to airport tarmac?

 

It would have been great to fly out of downtown Victoria and not have to slog to YYJ.

[Victoria Watcher]

So the Harbour Air flights will be airport to airport, not harbour to airport tarmac?

 

It would have been great to fly out of downtown Victoria and not have to slog to YYJ.

 

You want it to have pontoons and wheels?   I don't think they make that.  When you see the wheels and pontoons, that's just for dragging it up on shore at a remote lake with no dock etc., you can't land on those wheels.

 

 

I could also be wrong:

 

https://infoaeroqueb...ation-in-china/

 

I don't think salt water would be very kind to the wheel and brake assemblies though.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 19 September 2024 - 04:58 PM.

[Matt R.]

It will hopefully be half the price of its competitors.

[Mike K.]

You want it to have pontoons and wheels?   I don't think they make that.  When you see the wheels and pontoons, that's just for dragging it up on shore at a remote lake with no dock etc., you can't land on those wheels.

 

Of course you can. They're called amphibious aircraft.

 

https://www.youtube....l=TheHDAviation

[Victoria Watcher]

It will hopefully be half the price of its competitors.

 

The special introductory price for same-day return is $249, so I'm not so sure it's going to be cheap.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 19 September 2024 - 05:03 PM.

[Matt R.]

I must be missing something. I usually am.

[Victoria Watcher]

Of course you can. They're called amphibious aircraft.

 

https://www.youtube....l=TheHDAviation

 

I guess it can be done, seems tricky though.

[Mike K.]

They're very common along the coast. Super practical. Also, they make for a lot of entertainment when the pilot forgets to lower the gear when landing on a runway.

[Victoria Watcher]

Looks like it is $99 to $269 per one-way trip depending on booking level and run.  Some from Victoria only start at $109.

[vortoozo]

So the Harbour Air flights will be airport to airport, not harbour to airport tarmac?

 

It would have been great to fly out of downtown Victoria and not have to slog to YYJ.

 

There is float plane service to YVR from downtown Victoria already.

[Victoria Watcher]

There is float plane service to YVR from downtown Victoria already.

 

There is.  The water base at YVR.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 20 September 2024 - 01:13 AM.

[spanky123]

So the Harbour Air flights will be airport to airport, not harbour to airport tarmac?

 

It would have been great to fly out of downtown Victoria and not have to slog to YYJ.

 

YYJ to South Terminal. You still have to slog over to YVR if you are connecting. An ok option I guess if you are doing business in Richmond.