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#21 bcjosh

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 12:37 PM

If you are not a world-renowned championship marbles player (and who isn't these days), who cares if it is slanted?


Maybe I was generous in using the word slanted. :)

edit: I meant to use the word gracious.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 12:39 PM

If you are not a world-renowned championship marbles player (and who isn't these days), who cares if it is slanted?


I know someone who suffers from arthritis and if their 5th wheel travel trailer isn't perfectly level when they go camping, he can notice it and it becomes uncomfortable.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 12:52 PM

If you are not a world-renowned championship marbles player (and who isn't these days), who cares if it is slanted?


if I'm paying a couple hundred grand for something I want it flat, level and without deficiencies such as that. Why? its the principle of the matter, I pay for quality not, half assed

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 07:21 PM

If the sub-floors were sound they could have poured in a levelling compound before finishing the floor. It also helps with soundproofing.
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Posted 31 January 2010 - 07:41 PM

It also helps with soundproofing.


I wouldn't go that far.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 07:47 PM

Four hundred and fifty Gs? Great googly moogly!

This photo really sells it.


I'm surprised the description doesn't read "Stunning views of Esquimalt"

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 08:06 PM

I wouldn't go that far.


It most certainly does, the self-leveling compound helps deaden sound traveling, doesn't make it sound proof, but certainly helps reduce sounds traveling through the floors

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 08:21 PM

It most certainly does, the self-leveling compound helps deaden sound traveling, doesn't make it sound proof, but certainly helps reduce sounds traveling through the floors


What sort of sounds are you talking about? Airborne or impact noises?

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 05:44 PM

What sort of sounds are you talking about? Airborne or impact noises?


Obviously it will not have any bearing on airborne noises from outside, that would have to do with the quality of the windows and insulation. The noises it would reduce are footsteps, moving of items, and music from traveling between floors, not between walls obviously but between floors which is where in my experience a great deal of annoyance from neighbors comes from.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 07:30 PM

... which is where in my experience a great deal of annoyance from neighbors comes from.


sebberry seems to have some experience with that also.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 07:38 PM

Obviously it will not have any bearing on airborne noises from outside, that would have to do with the quality of the windows and insulation. The noises it would reduce are footsteps, moving of items, and music from traveling between floors, not between walls obviously but between floors which is where in my experience a great deal of annoyance from neighbors comes from.


I have 1.5" of concrete between my floors and the sound transmission reduction from it is minimal. Heck, I have been in houses without concrete seperation and the noise control is better.

Unless you have a proper decoupling membrane between the concrete and the plywood/OSB subfloor or between the subfloor and the joists, any impact noises travel right down into the suite below, especially if the drywall ceiling is attached directly to the joists.

Sound control is so much more involved than simply stuffing some insulation in the ceiling cavity or pouring a bit of self-leveling compound.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 08:11 PM

I have 1.5" of concrete between my floors and the sound transmission reduction from it is minimal. Heck, I have been in houses without concrete seperation and the noise control is better.

Unless you have a proper decoupling membrane between the concrete and the plywood/OSB subfloor or between the subfloor and the joists, any impact noises travel right down into the suite below, especially if the drywall ceiling is attached directly to the joists.

Sound control is so much more involved than simply stuffing some insulation in the ceiling cavity or pouring a bit of self-leveling compound.


If you "just stuff" insulation in a ceiling cavity, you are quite correct, it'll offer nothing, if you put insulation specifically designed for noise reduction and make sure it is installed properly you will receive significant noise reduction. As for a bit of self-leveling compound, if you pour self leveling compound and properly install flooring with no expense spared then YES you will receive a significant noise reduction (that being said, it, DOES deaden the sound to a certain point, when one lives in a building they may not notice it over time, but for a visitor they would most certainly notice the reduction..., but no one, especially not at the price point of the Ovation and the Developer behind it are going to spend the money to do such practices. There are numerous noise reduction routes one can take when building a multi-unit building, it all depends on how cheap the building is...

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 08:17 PM

If you "just stuff" insulation in a ceiling cavity, you are quite correct, it'll offer nothing, if you put insulation specifically designed for noise reduction and make sure it is installed properly you will receive significant noise reduction. As for a bit of self-leveling compound, if you pour self leveling compound and properly install flooring with no expense spared then YES you will receive a significant noise reduction (that being said, it, DOES deaden the sound to a certain point, when one lives in a building they may not notice it over time, but for a visitor they would most certainly notice the reduction..., but no one, especially not at the price point of the Ovation and the Developer behind it are going to spend the money to do such practices. There are numerous noise reduction routes one can take when building a multi-unit building, it all depends on how cheap the building is...


Which goes go reinforce my point that some self leveling compound used simply to level the floor will not do much, if anything for sound transmission. It needs to be used as part of a total system of sound control.

Pouring a bit on the floors of the Ovation will do nothing for sound control.

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#34 LJ

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 08:33 PM

I wouldn't go that far.


How about "it assists with sound attenuation"?:D
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Posted 01 February 2010 - 08:39 PM

Which goes go reinforce my point that some self leveling compound used simply to level the floor will not do much, if anything for sound transmission. It needs to be used as part of a total system of sound control.

Pouring a bit on the floors of the Ovation will do nothing for sound control.


However it will do wonders for the uneven floors which was the original complaint.

:D Wish I hadn't added the comment about sound.

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 10:18 AM

Are these things still for sale?

http://www.theovation.ca/

I noticed while viewing the Tudor on Google, how most of the rooftop decks were bare.

https://maps.google....lumbia&t=h&z=20



Top floor not popular here: http://www.theovatio...tes/floorplans/

But this price list says updated last in 2010: http://www.theovatio.../suites/prices/
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#37 D.L.

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 10:34 AM

yeah when I was out there a few weeks back I was surprised to see a sign still up advertising units

#38 Mike K.

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 02:17 PM

I suppose it all comes down to how well they converted the rental units to condos. Judging by the very slow sales either prices are far too high for what a buyer is actually getting or there are issues with quality.

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