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#61 Nparker

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 06:59 PM

There are still some overpaying government jobs, but not as many as 15 years ago.


Now if you want to talk about overpaid and underworked, look no further than "professional" athletes. NHL players being some of the worst.

#62 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 07:24 PM

Now if you want to talk about overpaid and underworked, look no further than "professional" athletes. NHL players being some of the worst.


No, they get paid what the market will bear, and what private-sector operators are willing to pay them on the open free-agency market. There are tens of thousands of brain surgeons and millions of teachers in the world, but only 600 top-level hockey (NHL) players. That's an elite group that ought to be and is paid accordingly. If they had no audience, like say pro badminton players, they'd still get paid accordingly (but much less).

What ought to be fixed is cities that throw out taxpayer money, like free stadiums etc. to attract teams. And also make leagues have to admit new teams to the league so they don't control the monopoly on teams in the highest-tier leagues of each sport.

How come few complain about entertainers' (actors, musicians) salaries, but have issues with sports players?

#63 Nparker

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 07:57 PM

There are tens of thousands of brain surgeons and millions of teachers in the world, but only 600 top-level hockey (NHL) players**. That's an elite group that ought to be and is paid accordingly.


Next time I am in need of serious medical attention I will ask the ambumlance attendants to drive me to an NHL game since I am certain this "elite group" are better trained and will be able to aid me with their special skills.

ps: VHF you chose to make this comparison** not I.

#64 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 08:13 PM

Next time I am in need of serious medical attention I will ask the ambumlance attendants to drive me to an NHL game since I am certain this "elite group" are better trained and will be able to aid me with their special skills.

ps: VHF you chose to make this comparison** not I.


I make the comparison simply because so many people suggest that doctors etc. should make more than NHL players - after all, they save lives and the NHL guys just play a game. But it's all numbers - supply and demand. For your average high-school graduate, you have a far better chance of becoming a brain surgeon than top-level sports pro.

#65 spanky123

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 08:30 PM

Since we are talking about underpayers, any government agency pays well below private sector. I remember years ago when I worked for the government and I decided to move to the private sector I received a 26% raise instantly and full benefits.

If I was to go back to government today, I would have to take a pay cut of around 35-40%. Oh, and don't forget coffee at 30 cents a cup, Xmas party is $30, and no bonuses.


Many entry level positions receive more within the Government when you factor in all of the benefits than they would in the private sector. Many middle managers receive less as you point in.

If you should happen to luck out as an OIC appointee or consultant then of course all bets are off! Not only will you make money that you would never see in the private sector, you don't even have to be good at what you do!

#66 Holden West

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 09:07 PM

Are there really entry-level positions in the Government comparable to West Corp's? I mean positions that hire you right out of high school, your only qualification being a pleasant phone manner.
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#67 G-Man

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 06:06 AM

Yup, THere is even a co-op program for undergrads.

 



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