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[Mike K.]

Notices were not delivered to the 178-units of rental apartments within Hudson Walk One. I think the City of Victoria botched the public notice component of this meeting. The theory is notices were only delivered to strata properties and businesses.

[Nparker]

...I was somewhat surprised at the low turnout...

I had wanted to go, but my need for dinner superseded my need for community involvement. This dilemma could have been avoided of course, if there was say, a brew bub or other food establishment somewhere at Hudson Walk. Talk about your "Catch 22's"!

[Mike K.]

Oh, and one bit of info, the zoning already permits a restaurant or pub to operate out of that space, so the brewery component is really what's at stake here, not whether a pub can locate there.

[jonny]

I was noticing Brown's Social House at Uptown the other day and how noisy their enclosed patio is. Future Uptown residents will hear it.

 

Well, it’s a rental building and Townline is the landlord. Not sure what the issue is here. If the tenants don’t like the idea of a brewpub down below they don’t have to fill out a rental application. There really aren’t any neighbours to piss off. I’m not sure the car audio place or the used car lot will mind a bit of noise at 12am.

 

This part of town is really devoid of life most of the time and is need of a spark in terms a gathering place. A brewpub is just what the doctor ordered.

 

I don’t know that Canoe is particularly noisy. Certainly more noisy than *nothing* I suppose.

[AllseeingEye]

Townline (on behalf of the mystery pub tenants) is asking for a few things to make the Hudson Walk pub a realiity. 

 

One is permission to glass in some of the patio. Enclosing an outdoor spaces increases the size of a building so that would push the tower over the allowed floor space ratio. Not by much, but permission must be granted. 

 

The other is a manufacturing license to make alcohol on premises. It will be a brewpub similar to Spinnakers or Canoe, the only difference is this pub will be at the base of a residential tower.

 

One issue will be exiting--how noisy the departing patrons will be. The Strath is chaos but I suspect this pub will be more like the Beagle on Cook Street. That one's not too bad, correct?

 

I was somewhat surprised at the low turnout considering how many people live at Hudson and how a pub would affect them.

 

I was noticing Brown's Social House at Uptown the other day and how noisy their enclosed patio is. Future Uptown residents will hear it.

Correct; I lived down the block right at Fairfield/Cook for seven years and it was fine. Except for those nights when my friends and I were leaving that pub, which typically led to chaos, police action and a general breakdown of social order. Otherwise it was very rarely if ever an issue. It tended (then, and I presume still does today) to cater to an older demographic than many other pubs.

[VicHockeyFan]

The comparisons to Strath noise are certainly not right.  

[Rob Randall]

^I was trying to think of neighbourhood pubs with an older demographic and nearby residential. Maude Hunters or Smuggler's Cove in Saanich, maybe. It might bring in more of a younger crowd with the arena events nearby.

 

Any rumours on who the operator will be?

[VicHockeyFan]

^I was trying to think of neighbourhood pubs with an older demographic and nearby residential. Maude Hunters or Smuggler's Cove in Saanich, maybe. It might bring in more of a younger crowd with the arena events nearby.

 

Yes, that's true.  It'll be a go-to place before and after arena events.  That said, there are only a handful of Motley Crues or Ozzy whows compared to a steady stream of Royals games, Start on Ice and Blue Rodeo.

[Mike K.]

I heard it's Duncan Morrison.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

J/k.

[VicHockeyFan]

It might make sense for it to be Canoe/Truffles.  They have money and experience.

[thundergun]

It might make sense for it to be Canoe/Truffles.  They have money and experience.

 

True. However they tend to be better at the venue location/experience aspect than producing great beer.

[VicHockeyFan]

True. However they tend to be better at the venue location/experience aspect than producing great beer.

 

Of note:  This new venue has no plans to sell into liquor stores or other pubs.  But they'd like to sell bottles and growler refills etc.

[Nparker]

Of note:  This new venue has no plans to sell into liquor stores or other pubs.  But they'd lie to sell bottles and growler refills etc.

It's a shame they don't feel they can be truthful about this. 

[G-Man]

No one had any issues with Overtime across the street did they?

[VicHockeyFan]

No one had any issues with Overtime across the street did they?

 

This one is a fair bit bigger, to say the least.  Over 300 seats total with patios.

[Nparker]

No one had any issues with Overtime across the street did they?

I bet many people have forgotten that establishment ever existed.

[Mike K.]

When did the place close? Where was it?

[VicHockeyFan]

When did the place close? Where was it?

 

Where the car dealer is.  It was a JV between the Courtnall Bros. and John Cantin from John's.  Prior to that it was a "Donut Maid".

 

They also owned an Overtime outside of BC Place too.

 

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[Mike K.]

Wow. I had no idea. I only remember the shack that was there.

[G-Man]

And one in Colwood too right? Overtime II?