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[FogPub]

Most stop signs should be yield signs anyway; or, for 4-ways, "yield to traffic on right".

[Tony]

That is currently the rule if there are no stop sign in all directions?

[Mike K.]

If there are no stop signs in all directions, traffic without stop signs doesn’t have to stop or yield under any circumstance*.

*obvs if something is in the way

[Victoria Watcher]

In the absence of traffic lights, stop or yield signals, the first vehicle to reach the intersection gets the right-of-way.

 

In general, in both controlled and uncontrolled intersections, if multiple vehicles arrive simultaneously, the driver to your right always takes precedence. For roundabouts, always yield to oncoming traffic and pedestrians crossing from all directions before signaling when exiting.

 

 

https://rates.ca/res...-what-right-way

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 09 September 2024 - 07:10 AM.

[Mike K.]

That can be perceived to mean two different things.

No stop signs “In all directions,” can mean there are directions with, and without stop signs at this intersection.

“In all directions” can also mean no stop signs at all.

[Victoria Watcher]

Good practice is "don't enter or cross another road unless it is safe to do so".

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 09 September 2024 - 07:19 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

LETTER: Bicycle lanes aren't calming Victoria traffic

 

Cyclists account for only small percentage of Victoria road users

 

 

https://www.vicnews....traffic-7726872

 

 

I slip out the front door on an hourly basis for a 10-minute break and while there I contemplate the passing flow of traffic along my stretch of Shelbourne Street. On average, I see 50 automobiles pass by, of which there are an average of two Teslas, sometimes even three or four. In addition, there are usually two bicycles during that same period. On an hourly basis that would amount to 300 automobiles including 24 or more Teslas and just 24 bicycles. So, I ask myself, why the city has dedicated 50% of the roadway to bicycles when they account for far less than 1% of the road users.

 

One often-used argument is that bicycle lanes serve as traffic-calming devices that reduce accidents. Judging by the angry glares of passing drivers forced to idle behind recycle and garbage trucks, etc., I’d say that city council is living in an alternate reality to us average Joes. What do you think?

 

 

Raym Forbes

 

 

 

 

This guy lives on Shelbourne.  Goes out for 10 minutes of every hour and counts cars.   What section can he possibly live on with so little traffic?  Shelbourne just north of McKenzie can get up to 1,100 cars per hour.  Now, that probably goes down a lot by the time you get to Mt. Doug Park, but I'm still sure it's over 300 per hour.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 30 December 2024 - 12:30 AM.

[FogPub]

^It'd vary widely by time of day (assuming daylight hours rather than night, which is of course lower) and time of week, I think.

[Tony]

Do the numbers reported add up on his section of Shelbourne?

[Sparky]

I think he smokes too much.

[Victoria Watcher]

^ ya!

[Victoria Watcher]

Where has all the bike parking gone?

I went to Central Junior from 1956 to 1959. At that time, the paved area in the school yard running parallel to Fort Street east of Moss to Fernwood had several rows of bike parking stalls.

I used them daily, they were always full. Most bikes had carriers for paper route deliveries after school.

Now that same area is all car parking, no bikes in sight. Isn’t that ironic with all the new bike lanes, in fact a new bike lane on Fort Street is 10 metres from the parking lot on school grounds.

I guess most of the kids today get to school by bus or parents dropping them off. So much for bike lanes.

Paul Baldwin

Victoria

https://www.timescol...pitals-10063160


This guy just noticed now? Kids stopped riding bikes a couple decades ago.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 12 January 2025 - 08:11 AM.

[splashflash]

1 minute video promoting trail conversion of the E&N Railway.

 

https://www.facebook...65162387470422/

[Victoria Watcher]

Those ‘no bike’ lanes on Mann Avenue

Last year the bike lanes on Mann Avenue suddenly appeared out of the blue. Saanich removed all the on-street parking and installed protected bike lanes on both sides.

Some residents had converted basements to suites, I’m assuming for the extra income, and this also helps by doing their part for their municipality with the housing crisis.

Then Saanich comes along and takes that on-street parking away from their tenants. Some tenants and residents are now parking on side streets.

Some had to widen their driveway. I sure hope Saanich helped out with that expense

I live one street over and I use Mann daily. I have only seen one bike in the bike lane.

And now they have a “no right turn on a red” sign at the end of Mann Ave. at Wilkinson Road, so a big line of cars can sit idling while there are no bikes coming.

And when Wilkinson Road backs up, nobody can turn left off Mann, so all vehicles trying to turn right are stranded idling in a long line.

How does that move vehicles efficiently? I’m shaking my head.

Ed Bailey

Saanich


https://www.timescol...rch-21-10406463

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 21 March 2025 - 04:23 AM.

[Barrister]

Time for a new city council for Saanich.

[Tony]

EVs do not idle, nor do ICE with auto stops.

[lanforod]

Wilkinson does get backed up, but all the way to Mann? Cmon. That’s a very rare occurrence.

[LJ]

And now they have a “no right turn on a red” sign at the end of Mann Ave. at Wilkinson Road, so a big line of cars can sit idling while there are no bikes coming.

 

That's just a suggestion, if I'm at that intersection I will be turning right when it is safe to do so.

Same thing at Admirals and Craigflower.

[Victoria Watcher]

Campus View Elementary in Saanich is one of six B.C. elementary schools participating in the new HUB Cycling Bike Bus program, where a trained instructor will help a "bike bus" of students bike safely to and from school.

According to a news release, a "bike bus" is an organized group of children riding bikes to school together along a set route under the supervision of adult leaders, which aims to improve students' physical and mental health, and to build community connections and increase road safety and visibility.

“I noticed there were very few children biking to school regularly. I heard about a Bike Bus in Portland Ore. led by the school’s physical education teacher Sam Balto. I started following that Bike Bus on social media and even took a trip down to Portland to participate in this legendary bike bus,” noted Maya Goldstein, HUB Cycling's bike bus manager, who started a bike bus in her children’s school, Gordon Elementary in Vancouver, in the release.


https://www.vicnews....-school-7953244



I know we have discussed this here and maybe in other threads. The lack of kids biking to school or otherwise is quite confounding to me.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 18 April 2025 - 09:59 AM.

[LJ]

When we were kids we found it was difficult to smoke on your way to school if you were riding a bike. It might be easier now with electric bikes.