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Address: Champions Court at Bear Mountain Parkway
Municipality: Langford
Region: West Shore
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#2041 LJ

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Posted 09 June 2021 - 07:30 PM

I think it affects the hotel (and restaurants and services there) as opposed to the homeowners. Ultimately at election time, perhaps we'll see a more engaged voter base here in Langford which is not good news for the current slate of city counsellors; if change happens at the poll, that could mean having to deal with a city much less accepting of Bear Mountain's shenanigans.

Ecoasis doesn't own the hotel or restaurants and couldn't care less what happens to them.


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#2042 Danma

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 01:58 PM

Ecoasis doesn't own the hotel or restaurants and couldn't care less what happens to them.

 

I'm pretty sure Ecoasis owns the entire resort, including the hotel?



#2043 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 02:02 PM

I'm pretty sure Ecoasis owns the entire resort, including the hotel?

 

 

 

2013:

 

The developer Ecoasis announced today it has bought all 836 acres of Bear Mountain resort, in addition to its hotel and golf courses. The price was not disclosed.

 

https://www.timescol...coasis-1.653331


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#2044 davidN

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 02:37 PM

 

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The developer Ecoasis announced today it has bought all 836 acres of Bear Mountain resort, in addition to its hotel and golf courses. The price was not disclosed.

 

https://www.timescol...coasis-1.653331

 

Actually, as of now Ecoasis has sold the hotel operation in the main hotel building to a local businessman, has severed relations with the Westin in the smaller hotel building, sold some of the major developable lands to out of town buyers, and sold the Recreation Center to the City of Langford (who has since sold it to the hotel operator I believe).

All second hand info so take it for what it is worth.


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#2045 Mike K.

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 04:08 PM

Yes, something like that. A Vancouver hotelier purchased the hotel.

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#2046 LJ

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 07:29 PM

Actually, as of now Ecoasis has sold the hotel operation in the main hotel building to a local businessman, has severed relations with the Westin in the smaller hotel building, sold some of the major developable lands to out of town buyers, and sold the Recreation Center to the City of Langford (who has since sold it to the hotel operator I believe).

All second hand info so take it for what it is worth.

Ecoasis owns the rec center, is redoing it as a gym, members lounge etc.


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#2047 LJ

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 07:30 PM

Yes, something like that. A Vancouver hotelier purchased the hotel.

Raoul Malek, from Metchosin, owns and is renovating the hotel.


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#2048 LJ

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 07:33 PM

Actually, as of now Ecoasis has sold the hotel operation in the main hotel building to a local businessman, has severed relations with the Westin in the smaller hotel building, sold some of the major developable lands to out of town buyers, and sold the Recreation Center to the City of Langford (who has since sold it to the hotel operator I believe).

All second hand info so take it for what it is worth.

The Westin Fairways, your smaller hotel, has ended it's relationship with Westin. The units are individually owned by investors who rent them out.


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#2049 Mike K.

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 07:38 PM

Raoul Malek, from Metchosin, owns and is renovating the hotel.

 

Hmmm. His Twitter bio says:

 

Raoul Malak is a Vancouver businessman and entrepreneur and current owner of the Westin Bear Mountain in Langford, BC (20min north of Victoria).


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#2050 LJ

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 07:39 PM

Hmmm. His Twitter bio says:

 

Raoul Malak is a Vancouver businessman and entrepreneur and current owner of the Westin Bear Mountain in Langford, BC (20min north of Victoria).

Well he has a great big house in Metchosin that is on the market if you are interested.

 

Also, he is at the Hotel every day.


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#2051 spanky123

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 08:03 PM

. Ecoasis admitted the issue from their end is one of liability, not one of misuse of the land. Sounds like the worst problem is people walking into the golf course, intentionally or otherwise – don't want some wayward sunday walker getting clocked with a golf ball.

 

You have trails right next to Cordova Bay golf course and lots of trails ramble through private land. Everyone else seems to have a solution for the liability, I don't what is so unique about Ecoasis.


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Posted 15 June 2021 - 05:12 AM

Matthews said over the past 18 months the development has added the 50-home Cypress Mews neighbourhood, 15 executive single-family homes in its Riviera neighbourhood, the 39-lot Pinehurst development is coming out of the ground, while new signage has just gone up promising a 30-home neighbourhood called Shadow Creek that will overlook the resort’s mountain golf course.

 

The company is drawing up plans for what could be a 180-unit development at the top of the mountain to be called Victoria Peak.

 

“We’ve been very active,” said Matthews, who noted they also signed on two condo developers to establish an 18-storey, multi-family tower on the site.

 

Matthews said with new infrastructure improvements such as the McKenzie Interchange and Bear Mountain Parkway, accessed via the Leigh Road/­McCallum intersection off the Trans-Canada Highway, the resort is better connected to the Victoria core and has become more of a bedroom community.

 

He said with people having the desire to be closer to nature, they are also more open to living in a 750-acre resort setting that is still just 15 minutes from downtown Victoria.

 

“This is a large property, but you only sell it once,” he said. “So, we took a pause on development in the early stages, waiting for some of the primary on-site and off-site infrastructure to be built, recognizing that once that was done values would be better.”

 

It seems to have paid off with many of the lots on the resort’s largest land parcels being quickly snapped up by builders.

 

It’s the next push in the resort’s ­evolution.

 

Matthews estimates Bear Mountain, which has about 3,500 residents, is about one third of the way to being built out. The expectation is there will be about 10,000 people living in the area in the next 10 years.

 

 

https://www.timescol...emic-1.24330577


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#2053 Mike K.

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Posted 15 June 2021 - 06:55 AM

Geez we sure do make Victoria out to be this massive metropolis where they have what are known as suburban bedroom communities (people leave home at 4AM, return home at 7PM, go to sleep, do it all over again).

Bear Mountain is 25 minutes from downtown Victoria at a distance of 20km. In most cities that distance/travel time is still in one singular community. You can get to Bear Mountain faster from downtown Victoria than you can travel from UVic to James Bay, which is half the distance. I’m not kidding.

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Posted 15 June 2021 - 07:25 AM

Geez we sure do make Victoria out to be this massive metropolis where they have what are known as suburban bedroom communities (people leave home at 4AM, return home at 7PM, go to sleep, do it all over again).

Bear Mountain is 25 minutes from downtown Victoria at a distance of 20km. In most cities that distance/travel time is still in one singular community. You can get to Bear Mountain faster from downtown Victoria than you can travel from UVic to James Bay, which is half the distance. I’m not kidding.

 

On a good day. It can easily take an hour to get downtown from BM as well. Certainly isn't 15 minutes though.


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#2055 Mike K.

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Posted 15 June 2021 - 11:26 AM

It’s not that bad. Right now it’s 27 minutes from where I’m at on Fort and Douglas.

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#2056 Mike K.

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Posted 15 June 2021 - 11:29 AM

18 minutes to UVic...

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#2057 LJ

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Posted 15 June 2021 - 07:34 PM

It’s not that bad. Right now it’s 27 minutes from where I’m at on Fort and Douglas.

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That would have been slower than normal due to the construction I'm guessing.

When the new part of Bear Mountain Parkway opened you could zoom up and down in no time, then they started ripping it up to put in roundabouts, now you are slowed down because of sidewalk construction.


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#2058 Mike K.

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Posted 15 June 2021 - 07:39 PM

Yup I can imagine.

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Posted 20 June 2021 - 06:49 AM

this article a few days ago read like more of a PR piece or ad.

https://www.timescol...emic-1.24330577

now it makes sense with BM making a big TC ad buy 3 days later.
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