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#1 Holden West

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Posted 31 May 2009 - 09:52 PM

Latest ratings for Victoria are in, with another jump for CBC 1:
Station              S2 09        S4 - 2008            change            

CBCV FM - Radio One    15.1       12.1                   +3.0
CFAX     - NewsTalk    11.9     11.7                       +0.2
CIOC     -  Ocean       9.3      10.6                     -1.3
CKKQ    -  The Q        9.0      10.2                     -1.2 
CHBE    -  KOOL FM     7.6        6.9                      +0.7
CJZN    -  The Zone    6.1        4.9                      +1.2
CHTT   -  JACK          5.3        4.6                     +0.7
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"Beaver, ahoy!""The bridge is like a magnet, attracting both pedestrians and over 30,000 vehicles daily who enjoy the views of Victoria's harbour. The skyline may change, but "Big Blue" as some call it, will always be there."
-City of Victoria website, 2009

#2 mat

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Posted 31 May 2009 - 10:06 PM

Thanks for posting that Holden - it shows that locally produced and relevant radio shines in this region.

#3 Phil McAvity

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 09:52 AM

All the more reason taxpayers shouldn't have to subsidize the CBC.
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#4 G-Man

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 10:11 AM

But they have no commercial income so that doesn't make sense. If you added commercials no one would listen anymore.

#5 Nparker

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 11:27 AM

But they have no commercial income so that doesn't make sense. If you added commercials no one would listen anymore.


CBC Television has commercials and to the best of my knowledge it still receives a taxpayer subsidy. I occasionally watch CBC so I assume others do as well even though there are commercials. That being said if CBC TV disappeared tomorrow I doubt I would miss it. I don't listen to much radio at all, so I can't comment on their radio services.

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 01:38 PM

I listen to about 3 hours of CBC radio a day sometimes more. It is truly my lifeline with the outside world. If it ever disapeared I would certainly cry.

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 05:05 PM

Losing CBC radio would be like losing a lifelong friend
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#8 gumgum

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 08:18 PM

Yep, I agree. I've been listening to cbc since I was a tiny little pooper.

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 08:21 PM

Losing CBC radio would be like losing a lifelong friend


...that costs each and every Canadian $30 per year.

I know, you can say that's a small price, but it is a huge price per person that actually watches or listens to it.

$1B per year subsidy.

#10 G-Man

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 08:27 PM

That is a small price.

#11 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 09:11 PM

That is a small price.


Really? Then would you like to pay $30 for CTV, $30 for Global, and lots of money for other stations that you watch?

Because all those stations are watched way more than CBC, and they demand none of your money (yet).

I might have trouble finding the source, but I read that if you were charged for watching all TV at the rate you pay the CBC, you would pay over $215 PER CANADIAN each year to watch TV.

So that's $645 for your family, G. Right now it's all free, except CBC.

#12 Caramia

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 09:55 PM

VHF are you talking about radio or TV? What is the 30 million a year for?
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#13 Phil McAvity

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 10:12 PM

^He never said anything about $30 million, where did you get that number from? :confused: He was talking about $30 per person.

But they have no commercial income so that doesn't make sense. If you added commercials no one would listen anymore.


So, you're saying the only reason you listen is because they have no commercials? That's not exactly a ringing endorsement of CBC radio. Why should CBC radio be any different than any other radio station? Like, what makes them so special that we all have to pay, regardless of whether or not we listen. How is that fair? It seems to me that I should be free to decide if I want to support the CBC or not. I don't mind my tax money going to things like medicare because that saves people's lives and eases their suffering, but the CBC? Give me a ****ing break! If people want to support it, they should spend their money on it, not mine.

It's so ironic that the Conservatives keep funding state-sponsored radio too. :mad:
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#14 G-Man

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 06:53 AM

Really? Then would you like to pay $30 for CTV, $30 for Global, and lots of money for other stations that you watch?

Because all those stations are watched way more than CBC, and they demand none of your money (yet).

I might have trouble finding the source, but I read that if you were charged for watching all TV at the rate you pay the CBC, you would pay over $215 PER CANADIAN each year to watch TV.

So that's $645 for your family, G. Right now it's all free, except CBC.


Never heard CTV radio before so can't judge.

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 07:37 AM

But they have no commercial income so that doesn't make sense. If you added commercials no one would listen anymore.


CBC radio had commercials until the early 1970s when they then moved to the current no advertising model.

The relative cost of CBC radio versus CBC TV is low. I think CBC radio operates on something on the order of $100 000 000 a year, though there is sharing or resources between all parts of CBC.

Parts of CBC TV makes money and helps defray the costs of other parts of CBC TV.

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 07:46 AM

I could care less about the loss of regular CBC television, I havn't watched it in years(seriously I don't think since I was about 5 and watched Sesame Street). Newsworld, on the other hand, I would keep and hands off my CBC Radio.

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 10:28 PM

If you added commercials no one would listen anymore.


I'd dump CBC radio if it ran commercials. That's one of the things I love about CBC radio and NPR. (I tolerate the fund drives on the latter.)

It is so refreshing to listen to content, instead of asinine, inane, annoying, screeching, stupid ads.

#18 Caramia

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Posted 06 June 2009 - 03:14 PM

^He never said anything about $30 million, where did you get that number from? He was talking about $30 per person.


My ass apparently. Sometimes I post without reading very carefully.

But my question remains... Are we talking about $30 per person for radio only? For TV only? For radio and TV?

I care about CBC radio - I actually think it is one of the best tools of national unity that we've got. CBC TV? I don't know if I have ever watched it.
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#19 mat

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Posted 06 June 2009 - 08:10 PM

I care about CBC radio - I actually think it is one of the best tools of national unity that we've got. CBC TV? I don't know if I have ever watched it.


CBC radio is on in my office, car and on a portable when outside gardening, washing the car, barbecuing...the only time it is switched off is when that idiotic show Johnathon Goldstein is on (dear lord that makes me cringe)

National radio, as Caramia aptly stated, is an integral part of Canadian identity. The CBC is the one media source that has a mandate to cover all of Canada to all Canadians, through news, documentaries, entertainment (whether they actually accomplish that is moot) - it is the only provider of native language news and current affairs, I think they cover 12 1st nations languages. That alone is worth the tax spend.

The commercial radio and TV media companies are naturally reticent about CanCon - but most barely meet the base standards. Much of what CTV et al get away with as Canadian content is the likes of 'Canada's Next Best Top Model'. Due to its limited acquisition budget CBC can't go chasing US TV productions - and all the better.

I am not worried about CBC TV as we are in the beginning of a paradigm shift in TV as an entire form of media. The use of TIVO, time shifting, on-demand, internet playback - internet on TV, TV on internet. TV, as we currently understand it, how it is made, marketed and provided will be radically different in 10 years (or less) - we are seeing that happen now.

#20 Holden West

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 07:37 PM

Here's some local listings I found in a 1928 paper:


"Beaver, ahoy!""The bridge is like a magnet, attracting both pedestrians and over 30,000 vehicles daily who enjoy the views of Victoria's harbour. The skyline may change, but "Big Blue" as some call it, will always be there."
-City of Victoria website, 2009

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