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[tjv]

but we’ve got free land to work with which brings the cost down immensely.

can you clarify which land you are talking about?  correct me if I am wrong but is the save on arena land not leased to RG Properties?

[sdwright.vic]

RG only leases and runs the arena.

[Coreyburger]

It's kind of a cruddy part of Douglas Street anyway.  1-2 storey buildings here is a waste o space and potential.

 

And yet older buildings like this are really good for taxation (yes, this holds true in Victoria too - I've looked at Quadra Village as an example) https://www.strongto...-building-types

 

Parking garages are definitely not good for taxation

[RFS]

And yet older buildings like this are really good for taxation (yes, this holds true in Victoria too - I've looked at Quadra Village as an example) https://www.strongto...-building-types

Parking garages are definitely not good for taxation

So parking isn't good for business? Better let every retailer in North America know, they've got it all backwards

[VicHockeyFan]

No shoppers downtown is also not good for taxation.

[aastra]

If a destination aquatic centre is going to be built at Central Park then the arena's back corner is the best spot for another elevated city parkade. Otherwise you're going to need a ton of surface parking on the pool grounds, which would look like *** and also be a huge smack in the face to the neighbourhood.

[VicHockeyFan]

RG only leases and runs the arena.

 

According to the agreement, they have the parking lot rights too.  It certainly does not mean a negotiation isn't possible or "complicated" as Helps said.

[Midnightly]

If a destination aquatic centre is going to be built at Central Park then the arena's back corner is the best spot for another elevated city parkade. Otherwise you're going to need a ton of surface parking on the pool grounds, which would look like *** and also be a huge smack in the face to the neighbourhood.

 

 

fully agree with that, if a new aquatic center comes in there needs to be something significant about the parking at/around the pool, right now people already play musical cars at that pool and park in the surrounding residential 2hr parking areas..the parking will need to match the center for demand!

 

i think more then 1 person has brought up that the last city parkades were built around the 70's, that puts current parkades 40+ years old, we need to consider the age of the current parkades and what is their remaining life span before they need a sizable overhaul (which could cause a whole parkade to be shut down for weeks/months)

[Cassidy]

Douglas Street North of the Hudson is still the vast, empty wasteland of near-derelict one and two story buildings that it's always been.

 

There's probably a dozen or more different opportunities for developments that include quite large parking facilities just in the three blocks to the North of the Hudson, one of which is VHF's proposal.

 

Places like the Smith Brothers Foundry lands have been sitting there, devoid of buildings and growing weeds for over 20 years now.

[sdwright.vic]

500 parking spaces at $20 dollars a day equals $3,650,000. Add some retail in on the first floor and your collecting gravy.

That's even considering 6 employees a day at 8 hour shifts your still doing pretty good in comparison to property taxes alone.

[Bingo]

So parking isn't good for business? Better let every retailer in North America know, they've got it all backwards

 

If you're making a point as a cyclist, the cars and where they need to park can often be detrimental to furthering their cause for building more bike lanes.

[jonny]

No shoppers downtown is also not good for taxation.

This is not happening.

So basically you all are saying because the city made the poor decisions to build parkades in the 60's and 70's we should build more now? Businesses are not entitled to more city owned parkades because they say property taxes. That's an odd thought process, especially coming from a couple of Republicans.

The city should not be in the parkade business. The cost to build a new parkade would be astronomical.

This whole matter could be alleviated through some pretty simple management tactics on the part of city. Increase city owned parkade rates and encourage new developments to have a public parking component. Daily parking should be north of $25 per day.

[VicHockeyFan]

The City IS in the parking business though. And with artificially low rates as I’ve clearly shown.

[VicHockeyFan]

^ ^ and I agree. We could have this solved by Christmas.

[Bingo]

The city should not be in the parkade business. The cost to build a new parkade would be astronomical.

 

That is like saying the province should not be in the business of building dams. 

Thank goodness they built the parkades when they did.

[Cassidy]

Raising parking fees in order to clear out folks who can’t afford any more than they’re currently paying is ridiculous.

Victoria needs more parking spaces, not wealthier drivers.

[VicHockeyFan]

$100 more for Downtown secure parking is unlikely to bankrupt full time Downtown workers. But is will cause a few to consider alternatives. And this can be done much quicker than building a parkade.

[sdwright.vic]

^you seem to be forgetting all those retail and food service peeps that can't afford to live downtown because they need to afford their old beat up rust bucket to get to the job that pays for their cheaper apartment out of town. Who wants to wait on the public and then be stuck on a bus for 45 minutes or more?

[sdwright.vic]

If you're making a point as a cyclist, the cars and where they need to park can often be detrimental to furthering their cause for building more bike lanes.

I would be all for no on street parking except for handicap and loading zones in multiple spots within a block for SEVERAL more parkades in the their place.

[sdwright.vic]

Could you imagine an entire block redevelopment with purpose built above ground parking as it's core?