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#21 victorian fan

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 09:25 AM

I went to church when I was young as most people did at the time. I loved it. Especially singing hymn. I still sing them today.

#22 arfenarf

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 12:45 PM

We (I'm Anglican) are facing an enormous transition from establishment church - and all that goes with that - to being one of many options for exploring and expressing faith.

I think the community that comes out of this will be exciting and vibrant, and virtually every adult there will be there because they made a conscious choice to be there. And that will be exciting.

We will be able to celebrate and leverage the liturgical and theological traditions we inherit from the past while living in our own time... But it sure won't be the size and scale of the Anglican presence in Victoria in 1960 and it sure won't look like what it did then, either.

Frightening, exciting, challenging times ahead.

My prayers are with those whose parishes are about to see enormous disruption and change. Change is hard.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 12:55 PM

This is quite a large number of interesting properties, generally centrally located in established neighbourhoods. rough map

The report recommends the selling/leasing of the disestablished parishes in 18 months.

A shame the church can't somehow generate more income from the properties. It will be interesting to see what types of conversions might happen. At the very least, 'hub church' parking lots will have to grow.

#24 Holden West

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 04:11 PM

A shame the church can't somehow generate more income from the properties.


I think they've maxed out the conventional opportunities--renting out parking on weekdays, day care, craft sales etc.

A church leader was on CBC this morning saying current church practices date back a thousand years when everyone attended church and that this model doesn't fit modern times. Ironically, the new direction the church may go may resemble the early days of the Christian church with small groups of people meeting informally, which seems truer than the drive-through salvation of the megachurches I mentioned earlier.
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#25 YOYO

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 05:47 PM

This is great news. It shows that more and more people are embracing common sense and science over fairy-tales with fascist like teachings.

#26 amor de cosmos

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 06:33 PM

would any of them make good german- or czech-style beer halls? :D

this one & this one seem to be in ok locations. are they big enough though? they'd have to hold at least 200-300 people & be able to brew their own beer.

#27 pseudotsuga

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 02:41 PM

310 Henry is on the Heritage Registry.
Might make a beer hall tricky, but I could be wrong!

It is zoned R2. If this is representative of most of the churches, I wonder how easy it will be to sell them.

If no community organization is interested or can afford the costs, will it be economical for a developer to rezone for multi-family and reno in a way that meets heritage guidelines?

edit: or maybe a single family??
http://www.converted...fo/gallery.html
http://boingboing.ne...an-francis.html

another edit re beer halls:
from http://www.ourproper...conversion.html

Rights of access and restrictive covenants

Your solicitor needs to carefully study the church title deeds to determine exactly what alterations will be possible in your church conversion project:

  • External alterations are routinely prohibited.
  • Relatives must have rights of access to visit the remains of the deceased.
  • In the past, Anglican churches prohibited the consumption of alcohol on the premises after conversion! Luckily, this practice is dying out.



#28 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 02:59 PM

would any of them make good german- or czech-style beer halls? :D

this one & this one seem to be in ok locations. are they big enough though? they'd have to hold at least 200-300 people & be able to brew their own beer.


Yes, the second one, the one in Vic West would make a good bottle depot.

#29 G-Man

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 03:44 PM

Homeless shelters?

#30 victorian fan

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 03:58 PM

Homeless shelters?



Better late than never. ;)

#31 amor de cosmos

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 07:22 PM

of course this one would make the ultimate church-turned-beer-hall, but i'm sure it's not closing down anytime soon :P

#32 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 07:49 PM

of course this one would make the ultimate church-turned-beer-hall, but i'm sure it's not closing down anytime soon :P


In the earthquake, I suppose most of it is coming down though. ;)

#33 victorian fan

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 03:15 PM

ANGLICAN SYNOD APPROVES REORGANIZATION; MORE YET TO COME
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Mar 8, 2010
http://www.cfax1070....hp?newsId=12673

That the proceeds from the disposition by sale and lease of disestablished buildings and lands be put into a Diocesan fund or funds for financing new initiatives, plant maintenance and upgrading.


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#34 Mike K.

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 09:16 AM

What sort of noise regulations govern church bells?


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Posted 28 December 2014 - 09:51 AM

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#36 Bingo

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 11:38 AM

What sort of noise regulations govern church bells?

 

Oh no not the bell NIMBYs again! 

 

So which came first the church or the congregation, and why would you move next to a church and then complain about the bells?

 

 

ECCLESIASTICAL LAW Canon F8 of the Church of England states that “every church shall be provided with at least one bell to ring the people to service”.

- See more at: http://www.bristol.a...h.UlV8Sget.dpuf

 

 Otherwise maybe we need more of these.

 

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#37 KAS

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 12:31 PM

I believe that they are exempt under the City noise bylaws.   



#38 Mike K.

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 12:36 PM

I figured they would be or have some special clause regarding them.

Just curious, is all.

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#39 KAS

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 12:44 PM

Looking, the bylaw just says 'use in a reasonable manner'.  Which, I guess, all comes down to what you term 'reasonable' :-)   



#40 Bingo

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 12:46 PM


Camp Columbia on Thetis Island was also closed.
 

 

 The mission ship lives on.

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