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#1 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 09:32 AM

I did a pretty thorough search before starting a new thread, but I don't think we have an infastructure thread covering all aspects of the harbour. We have one or two dedicated to the inner harbour etc. but thought we could use one covering all aspects over which the HA has authority.

Mooring a magnet for massive cruise ships

Offshore dolphin to accommodate vessels up to 335 metres in length

http://www.vancouver...9801/story.html

By Carla Wilson, Times Colonist
February 11, 2010 7:19 AM


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#2 Baro

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 09:36 AM

Link goes to wrong story
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#3 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 07:52 AM

So, while the "mega-marina" takes years to go through the channels, the VHA just chugs along quite nicely, moving forward. I like it.

Makeover to Victoria's Fisherman's Wharf to cost $2.5 million


By Carla Wilson, Times Colonist
February 20, 2010 6:35 AM


Read more: http://www.timescolo...l#ixzz0g5l2Nfu7


A $950,000 project will replace the middle four fingers at Fisherman's Wharf, adding 335 metres to meet demand for pleasure craft mooring spaces.



#4 aastra

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 11:29 AM

When I bought a home next to Fisherman's Wharf, the last thing I expected was Fisherman's Wharf.

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 07:50 PM

So, while the "mega-marina" takes years to go through the channels, the VHA just chugs along quite nicely, moving forward. I like it.


Replacement is not the same thing as new construction.

#6 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 07:57 PM

Replacement is not the same thing as new construction.


The dolphin they installed to dock "cruise ships for the mega-rich" was new construction, and they are somehow getting an extra 335 metres of extra space out of F.W. Maybe they are adding more fingers, but with less water between them?

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 06:03 AM

Rent hikes rock float-home set

Houseboat owners dispute increases exceeding 30 per cent in recent years

By Bill Cleverley, Times Colonist
March 9, 2010

Read more: http://www.timescolo...l#ixzz0hgifXHpW

#8 Bingo

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 07:41 AM

Read more: http://www.timescolo...l#ixzz0hgifXHpW


I suppose this is the on-the-water version of increased strata fees to pay for a leaky condo, whether yours leaks or not. If the marina needs new pilings and fingers, everyone pays.

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 09:17 AM

Read more: http://www.timescolo...l#ixzz0hgifXHpW



Its not really rent at all. It's moorage. I did a quick look through the tenancy act and there is no provision I can tell about moorage. They could argue that they are "mobile homes", but the act defines "designed for or intended to be equipped with wheels" so they have no chance there. Moorage is normally charged by linear footage, but I'm guessing the harbor authority realized that their beam is twice as wide than a boat and decided to recalculate. Moorage isn't cheap. In the inner harbor its $10.50/month plus tax. Normally the LOA to Beam ratio is 3.0->4.0. Meaning $10.50 is per 2->3sq ft ~= $4 a square ft, and thats drawing a box around the boat and not even the real footprint size of a boat. My small 25' sailboat costs me ~$300/m at Oak Bay, plus electric and I live aboards are not allowed.

#10 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 01:10 PM

I saw yesterday that there is a very large lemon on the lower causeway near the entry to the Undersea Gardens. No exterior signage on it, and it was not open for business yesterday, but I'll hazard a guess that it'll sell lemonade and the like.

Like this:


http://www.hamptonro...onade-stand.jpg

...and I guess not unlike this:


http://27.media.tumb...zm56oo1_400.jpg

Damn, I'm a huge fan of that show... but it was too smart for the general public to embrace...

#11 victorian fan

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 01:51 PM

large lemon = Undersea Gardens
perfect

#12 Mike K.

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 02:00 PM

The discussion on the CPR terminal/wax museum has been moved into its own thread here.

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#13 JohnN

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 12:31 PM

MORE CRITICISM OF SITE CHOICE FOR SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT

CFAX 1070
March 2, 2011

The Greater Victoria Harbour Authority has weighed in on the sewage
treatment debate, issuing a statement critical of plans to build a
plant at McLoughlin Point.

The Harbour Authority says McLoughlin Point is too valuable as a
potential waterfront commercial site. The Authority says "Victoria's
working harbour needs land access to the water to support critical
marine activities", and "McLoughlin Point is one of the few remaining
harbour properties that can be used to benefit marine industrial and
marine tourism activities".

It is also "one of the most visible sites for visitors coming onto
Victoria Harbour".

That argument had been raised earlier by the Victoria-Esquimalt
Harbour Society, when it objected to the Capital Regional District's
plan to locate a sewage treatment plant on the point. The Municipality
of Esquimalt also objects to the proposed location.

http://www.cfax1070....news&Itemid=113
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#14 Bernard

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 12:41 PM

I would have to agree with their take on it. This city has done a poor job protecting the harbour for industrial use. Dockside Green is a huge mistake as was Selkirk. Those lands are needed for industry that needs water access.

We no longer have the ability to have a rail barge come into the harbour and unload rail cars. If there was access, there would be some more clients for the E&N.

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 12:54 PM

Right - a sewage plant on the harbour at McLoughlin Point (MP) does zilch for the harbour economy because there is virtually no connexion between the sewage plant operation and harbour industry or tourism. Bruce Cuthbert has made some excellent points about how an MP site won't contribute to Esquimalt economic development either. The 500 metre span of the harbour entrance at MP is relatively narrow, when we know how dense and active harbour marine and air traffic can be some times of day. Also, an under-harbour pipeline connecting Shoal Point with MP might also have some risk, especially because of the harbour traffic, but also because crosses a seismic fault.
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Posted 15 April 2011 - 05:45 AM

All posts on the JBNA study have been moved here:

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#17 Bingo

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 11:42 AM

Harbour Authority to increase length of causeway float.

By looking at the proposed layout in todays TC, the 90 foot extension appears to be attached to the the lower causeway. The story states that there will be a ramp at both ends.

From this discription is is unclear how boats will access the inside of the new float.

Read more:
http://www.timescolo...6410/story.html

#18 JohnN

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 05:32 AM

Landmark could spur harbour plan: Fortin

Bill Cleverley
Times Colonist
November 24, 2011

Redevelopment of the CPR Steamship Terminal building could be the lead domino in bringing about a new vision for Victoria's harbour, Mayor Dean Fortin said Wednesday.

The Provincial Capital Commission is picking a tenant for the landmark 1924 building, which was formerly home to the Royal London Wax Museum. While Fortin is not involved in the selection process, he said he is excited that the building could become part of a new Belleville Street ferry terminal.

"We certainly see that as an opportunity to spur the redevelopment of the harbour. It's just a piece and a very necessary piece," Fortin said. A plan for the harbourfront will be high on the new council's agenda, he said.

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http://www2.canada.c...b1-120a59d38457
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#19 Mike K.

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 07:14 AM

What was it about the earlier harbour plan concept that made so many people's blood boil?

In keeping with tradition, anything the City gets behind will be overly expensive, pit residents against each other and likely push some elements of the current working harbour out of the harbour.

We're currently exposed to two such harbour-related issues at the moment: Johnson St Bridge and the Victoria Intl Marina. Throw is a City-led harbour master plan and watch the miocardial infractions spike.

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#20 Holden West

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 07:37 AM

Matt McNeil on CBC 90.5 now on CPR building controversy.
"Beaver, ahoy!""The bridge is like a magnet, attracting both pedestrians and over 30,000 vehicles daily who enjoy the views of Victoria's harbour. The skyline may change, but "Big Blue" as some call it, will always be there."
-City of Victoria website, 2009

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