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#7781 spanky123

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Posted 10 September 2019 - 06:16 AM

^ Even though the Mayor did not vote to support the size of the contingency fund for the bridge, she correctly thought it needed to be higher, whether the bridge should have been built or not is not the current issue.

 

The issue today is that we have outstanding lawsuits, warranty problems, missing fenders, and what could be a catastrophic design failure and/or premature 'warping' (my words) of a critical component. We know from the first go around with the bridge that when the going gets tough City staff gets going so I am not holding my breathe that they are going to sort this out alone. There needs to be some oversight and leadership to make sure that the taxpayer has their interests represented, that we get the bridge that we paid for and one that lasts for the period of time it was promised to. Can you imagine the impact to the City and/or its industrial users if the bridge is out of commission for an extended period of time?

 

Perhaps I am wrong but it seems to me that our bridge strategy is based more on hope then it is any planned outcome.

 

It would have been nice to see CFAX pick up this issue, especially since City staff lied to them on June 28th stating that the bridge was "fixed" when clearly and according to FOI materials it was not. Alas, it seems that the talk show circuit will be engulfed again today with the bugger who posted a comment on his personal twitter account.



#7782 Mike K.

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Posted 10 September 2019 - 06:26 AM

And circling back to those lawsuits, when you have active litigation hanging over you, you would be advised by counsel to keep quiet and discuss sensitive matters behind closed doors.

 

There is an in-camera meeting scheduled this week where council could very well be discussing the issue of the bridge.


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#7783 Dr. Barillas

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Posted 10 September 2019 - 10:00 AM

Anyone know what's happening with the big gravel patch on the Wharf st side of the bridge? It's ugly and barren. 


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#7784 Linear Thinker

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 11:25 AM

Plans are in progress, and include relocating the Commerce Canoe sculpture from Bastion Square to "Triangle Island".

See the June 27 COTW meeting, item F3.

 

Anyone know what's happening with the big gravel patch on the Wharf st side of the bridge? It's ugly and barren. 


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#7785 Mike K.

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 01:38 PM

Here is the rendering:

 

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#7786 GaryOak

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 05:16 PM

Why are they moving it again?

#7787 Mike K.

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Posted 11 September 2019 - 05:31 PM

The cost to build the angled surfboards skyrocketed by $200,000 over the $250,000 budget for the art, so I think the City has taken a pragmatic approach and decided that the cost for a piece of art at the bridge could be too controversial.


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#7788 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 04:17 AM

and bastion wants the space back. for something.

#7789 Mike K.

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 04:57 AM

There will be a totem pole in its place, I believe.

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#7790 Mike K.

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 04:58 AM

I just hope the rendering is not an indicator of the actual plantings they’re planning. That’s a merge lane (two of them), and seeing traffic is sort of important at that juncture.
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#7791 Ismo07

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 09:05 AM

I just hope the rendering is not an indicator of the actual plantings they’re planning. That’s a merge lane (two of them), and seeing traffic is sort of important at that juncture.

 

For the most part the traffic lights handle that.  East bound traffic on Johnson would be flowing when westbound on Pandora approaches the bridge.  I'm not sure cars would be coming from that left off of Wharf.  But always good to look I suppose :)



#7792 Mike K.

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 09:51 AM

Yes, I think it’s alwags been delineated that way but you get the odd errant car every once in a while.

Generally speaking we’re a little overzealous with our curbside plantings across this region.
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#7793 Nparker

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 09:57 AM

...Generally speaking we’re a little overzealous with our curbside plantings across this region.

And much less zealous about maintaining them...especially the grassy boulevards.


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Posted 12 September 2019 - 10:22 AM

I just hope the rendering is not an indicator of the actual plantings they’re planning. That’s a merge lane (two of them), and seeing traffic is sort of important at that juncture.

 

Not sure about CoV, but the visual clearance guideline in CoRichmond is 3 ft



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Posted 12 September 2019 - 10:37 AM

As in that's the maximum height of a planting from the road surface to the tip of the foliage?


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Posted 12 September 2019 - 10:46 AM

Generally speaking we’re a little overzealous with our curbside plantings across this region.

 

I wish the city would trim some of the trees over sidewalks.  I've nearly had a twig in my eyes on more than one occasion.  I shouldn't have to duck out of the way.


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#7797 Dr. Barillas

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 10:50 AM

I wish the city would trim some of the trees over sidewalks.  I've nearly had a twig in my eyes on more than one occasion.  I shouldn't have to duck out of the way.

 

Careful what you wish for, they'll probably just cut them all down.


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#7798 Rob Randall

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 10:54 AM

As in that's the maximum height of a planting from the road surface to the tip of the foliage?

 

Underside of the leaf for broadleaf; topside for succulents.


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Posted 12 September 2019 - 10:56 AM

As in that's the maximum height of a planting from the road surface to the tip of the foliage?

 

Correct


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Posted 12 September 2019 - 11:15 AM

I wish the city would trim some of the trees over sidewalks.  I've nearly had a twig in my eyes on more than one occasion.  I shouldn't have to duck out of the way.

 

It is helpful to report that stuff to parks@victoria.ca.  They are usually very good at getting to issues like this.



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