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[Victoria Watcher]

https://twitter.com/...044342579450103

 

 

 

Moe says Saskatchewan to stop collecting carbon tax on heating if no federal break given

 

Moe says starting Jan. 1, the provincial gas utility SaskEnergy won't collect or submit the tax

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ating exemption.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 31 October 2023 - 01:47 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

Despite opposition and environmental violations, major B.C. pipeline project nearly complete

 

TC Energy says the 670-km Coastal GasLink pipeline has been fully installed from Dawson Creek to Kitimat

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...alled-1.7013274

 

 

 

 

 

 

LNG Canada export facility still under construction

 

The LNG Canada facility, which will be the first liquefied natural gas export facility in Canada, is still under construction.

 

But the company said in an update in July that the project is 85 per cent complete and is scheduled to begin exports by mid-decade.

 

LNG Canada, a more than $40-billion project, represents the single largest private investment in Canadian history.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 31 October 2023 - 02:01 AM.

[dasmo]

LNG for export but we are too good to use it here. So odd.

Edited by dasmo, 31 October 2023 - 06:27 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

LNG for export but we are too good to use it here. So odd.

 

To play devil's advocate, you might say we are shipping to countries that do not have cheap electricity alternatives.  

 

UK pays 46 cents for electricity.  Germany 41.  Japan 26.  Most BC gas will go to Asian markets.

 

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 31 October 2023 - 06:34 AM.

[dasmo]

Nanaimo banned it. It’s not about economics.

[Victoria Watcher]

Nanaimo banned it. It’s not about economics.

 

What I'm saying is.  For those that have cheap electricity (like we do) then gas is not necessary.  It's relatively easy to substitute a cheap alternative. 

[dasmo]

What I'm saying is.  For those that have cheap electricity (like we do) then gas is not necessary.  It's relatively easy to substitute a cheap alternative. 

I get that. I wasn't being argumentative so much as yelling at the clouds. 

[Victoria Watcher]

I think that as a whole, it's best of we do not burn anything, when there is an alternative that is priced similarly.

 

So Nanaimo, or Victoria is saying, "hey, install heat pumps when you build a new house, not gas heating and appliances".  I don't think it's too unreasonable.  

[dasmo]

I think that as a whole, it's best of we do not burn anything, when there is an alternative that is priced similarly.

 

So Nanaimo, or Victoria is saying, "hey, install heat pumps when you build a new house, not gas heating and appliances".  I don't think it's too unreasonable.  

I do because the infrastructure is there and it diversifies our energy grid. Once all our houses, cars, appliances, power tools etc are on the electricity grid all our eggs are in one basket that isn't big enough for all the eggs at once. 

[Victoria Watcher]

I do because the infrastructure is there and it diversifies our energy grid. Once all our houses, cars, appliances, power tools etc are on the electricity grid all our eggs are in one basket that isn't big enough for all the eggs at once. 

 

But that will be discovered and hopefully rectified as we go along.   It's not going to happen all at once, if we are smart about it.  

 

Lay out a plan, enter into long-term contracts etc.  For example, when we hit certain milestones for consumption, make those trigger - automatically - investments in more electricity production.   

 

Why don't we, for example, now start installing solar panels along highways, or high power transmission lines, or pipelines or railway right of ways.  Places that we already maintain and service and have good access for both maintenance and to the grid.   Let's start that now, and just keep going.  Install x number of kwh production capacity every year, and scale that up and down as we need.  Why don't we install wind turbines now in the area we are about to flood near site C.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 31 October 2023 - 07:25 AM.

[dasmo]

We aren’t doing that though. We are just banning gas.

[Mike K.]

We don't do any of those things, because the costs are astonishingly high. You can't keep up a ruse by proving over and over how financially draining the installation/maintenance/replacement costs are.

[Victoria Watcher]

Right.  Well let's do that now.

[Victoria Watcher]

We don't do any of those things, because the costs are astonishingly high. 

 

They are compared to some alternatives, like cheap electricity we buy every single night from Alberta coal-fired plants.  But let's very slowly move away from that even if the price is slightly higher now.  When we replace the solar panels 10 years from now they will be with even more efficient and cheaper ones, but we will already have the steel framework in place.  And robots will replace the panels.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 31 October 2023 - 07:38 AM.

[dasmo]

It's also better for the environment to use what's there. REUSE REDUCE RECYCLE.  Speaking of recycle. 

 

Wind turbine emissions:

 

Edited by dasmo, 31 October 2023 - 07:38 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

BC United promises carbon tax relief if elected government next year, says Falcon

 

 

https://www.timescol...-falcon-7764023

[Nparker]

Cancellation is the only acceptable "relief" from this odious tax.

[Mike K.]

The BC Liberals pioneered the carbon tax, of course.

You know these taxes are gimmicks, when politicians force them through, then use their promised removal as “relief.”

Does the leadership not realize how much these taxes are contributing to the cost of living and inflation? Do you not consider what it means when the single largest cost in our society (transport of goods) becomes much more expensive to recoup these taxes? The consumer pays more for everything, and the cost to transport everything rises. Diesel is at the core of everything in our society, and it’s facing rapidly rising carbon taxes.

[Nparker]

Worse still is rebating a few of our own tax dollars back to us.

[Victoria Watcher]

British Columbia Premier David Eby says it's unfair that Atlantic Canada is being targeted for federal relief on heating bills that won't apply to B.C., after Ottawa announced a three-year pause on carbon pricing for home fuel oil.

The pause announced last week applies to the 10 provinces and territories where the federal fuel charge applies, although home fuel oil usage is more prevalent in Atlantic Canada.

British Columbia, Quebec and the Northwest Territories are excluded because they collect their own fuel tax.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ction-1.7013967

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 31 October 2023 - 01:00 PM.