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[Bicycles] Bike lanes and cycling infrastructure in Victoria and the south Island


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#10901 Mike K.

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Posted 20 November 2023 - 03:01 PM

Yeah, with 18 million people living on a land mass just a little bigger than Vancouver Island.

We’ve got to get our heads out of the clouds, to say it charitably.
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#10902 max.bravo

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Posted 20 November 2023 - 03:02 PM

The comic only goes so far.

Once you start living with the results of woke bike lane and transit planning, you realize cars and roads are the better option after all. You were just being a complainy grass-is-Greener whiner when you thought bike lanes were the thing.

Source: me; a former champion of bike lanes

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Posted 20 November 2023 - 03:03 PM

Barely a soul in the bike lanes on a day like today, in November. Still 30,000 cars crossing the Johnson Street Bridge…
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#10904 lanforod

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Posted 20 November 2023 - 04:43 PM

30k cars over the bridge today? Wow. 



#10905 dasmo

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Posted 21 November 2023 - 12:46 PM

Check out this bike graveyard in China! https://x.com/howthi...QrcObpkhVXe97Jg

#10906 aastra

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Posted 21 November 2023 - 02:02 PM

The European example is the ideal example to follow, except for all that silly stuff about preserving and repurposing old buildings. Victorians are too cool for that.



#10907 aastra

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Posted 21 November 2023 - 02:11 PM

 

Source: me; a former champion of bike lanes

 

You know, it's funny. I'm less negative about them now than I was before. I'm still not crazy about using them myself (if I happen to be biking somewhere, I tend to gravitate toward routes that will enable me to avoid them), but when I watch other people using them -- especially young people or young parents with children -- I gotta admit there's a decent chance that the generations who grow up with these bike lanes might end up regarding them differently than I do.


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#10908 dasmo

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Posted 21 November 2023 - 02:22 PM

Bike lanes made Rotterdam livable. It’s how we are doing them that is the problem.

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#10909 Tony

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Posted 21 November 2023 - 05:47 PM

Considering the backlash to the limited one side of the street bike lanes vs bike lanes on both sides of a street in the Netherlands  that seems to provide more safety and better flow I do not think that any bicycle lanes would have ever got off the ground and have been built. Sometimes opposition complaints result in less than optimum results be they bicycle lanes or housing or .............



#10910 Ismo07

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Posted 22 November 2023 - 08:23 AM

How’s downtown doing since the war on cars started several years ago?

Remember this? We’ve created a cycling utopia.

- https://www.timescol...dy-says-4606466

So why’s downtown in the worst shape it has ever been in, when we’ve done everything the experts wanted?

 

 

So weird, it was worse in 2020, 2021 and 2022...  Downtown has improved 3 years in a row...  Now if you go back further when we had bike lanes same thing was happening..  2015, 2016, 2017 and on development and improvement..  To blame bike lanes isn't accurate, I think something else happened that cause many issues.



#10911 max.bravo

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Posted 22 November 2023 - 08:49 AM

You know, it's funny. I'm less negative about them now than I was before. I'm still not crazy about using them myself (if I happen to be biking somewhere, I tend to gravitate toward routes that will enable me to avoid them), but when I watch other people using them -- especially young people or young parents with children -- I gotta admit there's a decent chance that the generations who grow up with these bike lanes might end up regarding them differently than I do.

I commuted from the peninsula to downtown for several years by bike. I have to say, I think the devil is in the details. 

 

Dedicated bikeways like Lochside and the Goose are excellent. Protected bike lanes on main thoroughfares are excellent. 

 

But any 'traffic calming' mixed bicycle/car implementation is terrible. Like Richardson st. 


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#10912 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 22 November 2023 - 08:58 AM

Victoria bike-theft map shows most are stolen in residential neighbourhoods

 

While many people believe their bikes are safe in a locked condo bike room, that doesn’t seem to be the case
 
When Jamie Wellbourn mapped the locations of self-reported bike thefts in Greater Victoria over nearly two months, he was surprised by the picture that emerged.
 

Wellbourn expected to see a cluster of thefts in downtown Victoria, but instead just three of the 35 thefts he mapped occurred downtown. The other 32 were scattered around mostly residential areas. Many were taken from condo bike rooms or backyards.


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#10913 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 22 November 2023 - 08:59 AM

I commuted from the peninsula to downtown for several years by bike. I have to say, I think the devil is in the details. 

 

Dedicated bikeways like Lochside and the Goose are excellent. Protected bike lanes on main thoroughfares are excellent. 

 

The Lochside Trail is the best for biking.   :cheers:


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 22 November 2023 - 08:59 AM.


#10914 LJ

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Posted 22 November 2023 - 08:41 PM

Now this is a bike lane...

 

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#10915 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 02 December 2023 - 07:38 AM

The British Columbia government has launched another study to decide how e-scooters fit into the provincial transportation network.

The four-year safety review will start next April and replaces an e-scooter pilot project that began in 2021, which saw the machines tested in 13 communities.

https://www.cheknews...system-1180069/


4 years eh?

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#10916 max.bravo

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Posted 02 December 2023 - 09:10 AM

If they decide escooters are illegal after 4 more years, they should compensate the thousands of people who buy scooters during the ‘we don’t know if they’re legal’ time.

There should be something like a right to timely legislation. It took this government 10+ years to study and legalize Uber.

#10917 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 02 December 2023 - 09:11 AM

What’s the difference between scooters or skateboards or rollerblades?

#10918 max.bravo

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Posted 02 December 2023 - 09:15 AM

E scooters are motorized

#10919 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 02 December 2023 - 09:26 AM

Does that make them more dangerous?

#10920 max.bravo

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Posted 02 December 2023 - 09:52 AM

More dangerous? 🤷‍♂️ dunno.

It definitely makes them a different class of vehicle

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