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Verve
Uses: rental, commercial
Address: 3381 Whittier Avenue
Municipality: Saanich
Region: Urban core
Storeys: 5
Verve is a five-storey, 95-unit purpose-built rental complex with just under 5,700 square feet of ground floor... (view full profile)
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[Saanich] Verve | Rentals; retail | 5-storeys | Built - completed in 2019


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#1 Urbanistco

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:36 AM

- 2/1/2013 Saanich Planning application date
- Abstract Developments
- 6 storey, commercial residential mix
- Looks like 2 storey commercial and 4 storey residential. Probably 1 commercial storey is parking due to the big grade change on the property
- Whittier and Boleskine
- Site is single family neighbourhood on a light industrial interface

http://www.saanich.c...kinefeb0113.pdf

Abstract just finished the City Park townhouse project on the same street.

#2 Mike K.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:46 AM

Nice, thanks for the update!

No doubt Abstract will bring a quality project to the market. I believe they're currently working on several higher density multi-storey buildings which must be the busiest they've ever been.

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#3 Urbanistco

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:13 AM

Warner James is architect, they are pretty decent. I expect the design to be very similar to 200 Douglas given the site challenges. ie: boxed, overhangs, recessed.

I agree Mike K., they build a quality product but I do not think their projects are selling nearly as fast as they would hope.

I do not think that the quantity of projects coming online truly reflect the market. I believe a portion of these projects from developers in town are in part, to keep crews busy. The well financed developers are able to build rain or shine so to speak.

#4 G-Man

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:30 AM

- 2/1/2013 Saanich Planning application date
- Abstract Developments
- 6 storey, commercial residential mix
- Looks like 2 storey commercial and 4 storey residential. Probably 1 commercial storey is parking due to the big grade change on the property
- Whittier and Boleskine
- Site is single family neighbourhood on a light industrial interface

http://www.saanich.c...kinefeb0113.pdf

Abstract just finished the City Park townhouse project on the same street.


Wow good to see the planning department using such up to date maps!

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#5 G-Man

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 04:11 PM

Looking at this plan again which at first glance is quite exciting for the area but I have to wonder why is their a parking entrance of Boleskine? That seems like a poor choice. IMO all parking access should be on the quieter street.

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#6 D.L.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:41 PM

Yeah it would seem to make sense to put the parking entrance at the south end of the site on Whittier because that is the lowest part of the site.

Actually looking at the site plan again it says "proposed new walkway and driveway" in two places, on Boleskine and on Whittier.

#7 Urbanistco

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 08:28 AM

My guess is that the 7.5m setback and commercial on floor mix, I would assume that the Boleskine access is to service the commercial portion whereas the Whittier access would lead to underground parking.

#8 G-Man

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 10:40 AM

^ That is even worse. Than you would have commercials trucks pulling in and out onto Boleskine!

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#9 G-Man

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 12:36 PM

This project is not up on the Abstract site yet but man do they have some nice looking projects.

http://abstractdevelopments.com/

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#10 LJ

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 07:10 PM

^Yeah they do nice work, certainly not cheap, but quality from design to finish.
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#11 sPAZEDiN

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 07:11 PM

From todays paper: http://www.timescolo...n-area-1.759893



#12 Mike K.

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 06:18 AM

Welcome to VV, sPAZEDiN.

 

Nice to see this project is progressing. A bit of an odd design though, no?

 

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 06:31 AM

I like that it's not just another square box this island is famous for.
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#14 jklymak

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 09:09 AM

I'd say Saanich is pretty famous for a lot of "designs" like this.  



#15 sPAZEDiN

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 01:03 PM

Thanks for the Welcome Mike! I know you from the Great Scaper days and the Wing.

 

Re: Design... its a tough site, sloping quite a bit front to back. This configuration makes sense, as less excavation is needed for the parking by using the natural slope to max advantage.

 

Regarding the shortage of parking, one wonders if this proposal gets approval Saanich may "unofficially" create (by way of precedent) a Harris Green style parking relaxation within 2 blocks of Uptown as this proposal is way short on parking. They have 71 spaces whereas the guidelines call for 137 to 173 spaces. They are trying to get a variance for the difference.

 

 Public hearing is tonight at 7:30pm at Saanich Municipal Hall.



#16 Mike K.

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 02:09 PM

Thanks for the Welcome Mike! I know you from the Great Scaper days and the Wing.

Whoa, that's going way back :)


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#17 sPAZEDiN

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 03:03 PM

This project received approval Tuesday evening and will be coming to the market in Spring 2015.

 

There will be 48 two bedroom units, 12 one bedroom units, and approx. 10,000 - 12,000 sqft of commercial which will comprise of three units. One commercial unit at the Boleskine side will be retail, and the other two accessed from the concourse on the right side of the building fronting Whittier will be classified as office. Sizes of individual commercial units are yet to be determined.



#18 amor de cosmos

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 08:58 AM

Saanich council OKs development near Uptown mall
Bill Cleverley / Times Colonist
December 19, 2013 09:00 PM



The proposed development will have five storeys along the Boleskine Road frontage. The ground floor of the building will be office and commercial space, with four storeys of residential units above.

Abstract was seeking a substantial variance in the parking requirement — reducing the total number of spaces provided to 71 from the 147 required under the bylaw.

The company committed to a covenant that would allow only one of the three commercial units to be used for retail at any given time with the remaining two restricted to general office use — reducing the parking requirement for the commercial units.



Commercial parking spaces will be converted to residential visitor parking after business hours and commercial tenants will be given the first right of refusal to rent parking stalls from residential owners.



“In terms of the land-use change, the key word is change,” Leonard said.

“Not only are we changing land use, but in time, we’re going to be changing demographics and lifestyles in the Uptown area. There’s going to be all ages and people who actually don’t depend on a car either to get to work or to be at work.”

http://www.timescolo...n-mall-1.766104

#19 Mike K.

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 11:08 AM

This project is now proceeding as a 95-unit purpose-built rental project.

 

Saanich developers drop condo plans in favour of rental suites
http://victoria.citi...-rental-suites/


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#20 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 02:19 PM

This project is now proceeding as a 95-unit purpose-built rental project.

 

Saanich developers drop condo plans in favour of rental suites
http://victoria.citi...-rental-suites/

Mike- I think the thread may be referring to a different project?  Per the thread history this is for something on Boleskine (not W. Saanich) developed by Abstract Developments...



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