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#161 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 14 February 2021 - 06:15 PM

The Downtown Victoria Business Association will extend its Downtown Delivers campaign, which delivers orders from downtown retailers and restaurants to homes around the region, until the end of March.

 

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Since it started, the DVBA’s program has covered more than $70,000 in local delivery costs for its members and means downtown businesses can offer free delivery to their customers without a cost to themselves.

 

https://www.timescol...arch-1.24281730

 

 

 

not to rain on this parade.  but if the average delivery cost is $6 that is only 11,600 deliveries.  from 2,000 downtown retailers.   <6 items each over the length of the program so far?


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#162 Barrrister

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Posted 14 February 2021 - 09:42 PM

I have given up on downtown. 



#163 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 15 February 2021 - 04:43 AM

is see that former DVBA kerry milton's fraud case is heading to trial this summer (july and august 2021) in pentiction.


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#164 Jackerbie

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Posted 15 February 2021 - 09:45 AM

The Downtown Victoria Business Association will extend its Downtown Delivers campaign, which delivers orders from downtown retailers and restaurants to homes around the region, until the end of March.

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Since it started, the DVBA’s program has covered more than $70,000 in local delivery costs for its members and means downtown businesses can offer free delivery to their customers without a cost to themselves.

https://www.timescol...arch-1.24281730



not to rain on this parade. but if the average delivery cost is $6 that is only 11,600 deliveries. from 2,000 downtown retailers. <6 items each over the length of the program so far?


I mean that's one way to present things (although the DVBA website lists 1400 members, not 2000).

You could just use the 77 listed participating businesses on the website, for around 150 deliveries each.

You could also say 11,600 deliveries over the 75 days the program has been offered to date (154 total per day, or 2 per day per participating business).
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#165 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 15 February 2021 - 09:47 AM

true.

 

why are only 77/1400 companies using it?

 

that's nearly $1000 in usage per company, paid for by the other 1,323 not using it.


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#166 spanky123

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Posted 15 February 2021 - 10:05 AM

true.

 

why are only 77/1400 companies using it?

 

that's nearly $1000 in usage per company, paid for by the other 1,323 not using it.

 

 

77 companies are listed. If it is like most things in life, 80% of the usage comes from 20% of the sample.



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Posted 10 June 2021 - 05:29 AM

Les Leyne: Deserted downtown prompts debate about restarting economy

 

Then Liberal critic Todd Stone walked out the door and up Government Street. He came back with a different view.

 

“It’s just staggering, in early to mid-June, that if you’re lucky, you might walk past one other human being in an entire block of downtown Victoria.”

 

After an hour walking around downtown, he told the legislature he saw “business after business after business” closed or reducing their hours.

 

https://www.timescol...nomy-1.24328833

 

One restaurant’s sign said it was only open two days a week. So was a clothing store. A sports retailer was managing four days a week.

 

“The profile of our downtowns and communities across the province is very different today, from a small-business perspective, than it was one year ago,” said Stone.

 

Kahlon, a Richmond MLA who was born and raised in Victoria, agreed that downtown is quiet because of remote work and the lack of tourists.


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#168 Barrrister

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 07:16 AM

It is also quiet because it feels rather trashy at best. 



#169 spanky123

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 07:33 AM

^ I fear that with such a prolonged shutdown, many habits have formed. Even though we are increasing the downtown population, all that is happening is that Amazon deliveries have surged while retail stores sit empty. 


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#170 Mike K.

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 08:02 AM

Government Street, generally speaking, is fairly void of people outside of the tourism season. The businesses in that part of town rely heavily on cruise ships delivering thousands of people a day to that thoroughfare and the general tourism market that strolls that street. No cruises or visitors, no people on the streets, and that rings true even in June on a sunny day.

 

But remember when Victoria politicians said the local population is sufficient to sustain downtown? I think we forgot they made that claim. Then nature gave us a crash course on economics, and clearly the downtown core needs mass infusions of south Islander locals, and tourists.


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Posted 10 June 2021 - 12:09 PM

There's a big difference between a promise that "population growth can sustain downtown businesses" and the types of businesses that are downtown. To draw the inevitable Vancouver comparison, Government Street is not a Granville or Robson or Commercial Drive. It's Water Street through Gastown, which despite being lined with two to six storey buildings is pretty dead these days because of the business mix (restaurants, bars, galleries, souvenir shops, and the occasional retail outlet). Take away the office workers and tourists, eliminate or reduce indoor dining for a while, and restrict alcohol sales after 10 and you've got a recipe for a dead street.

The population is there, but the target market for many of the businesses is not local. Doesn't matter how many residents you add to the core, very few of them will be shopping at the gift shops regularly.
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