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[Mike K.]

Whoa. That’s alright.

[Victoria Watcher]

I guess peoples concern about this climate emergency was blown out of proportion. 

 

GREEN

 

 

and 6.5% yesterday.

 

 

 

NDP

 

 

and 15.1% yesterday.

 

 

so together the two parties that say the sky is falling on climate command less than 22% of the vote.  

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 22 October 2019 - 05:24 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

[Cats4Hire]

I wonder if Trudeau will try and go at it alone or if he'll make a deal with NDP. I don't think they'd bother with a coalition but maybe a partnership like the GreeNDP in BC where NDP will support Liberals on confidence votes but not necessarily anything else.

[G-Man]

GREEN


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and 6.5% yesterday.



NDP

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and 15.1% yesterday.


so together the two parties that say the sky is falling on climate command less than 22% of the vote.

I don't think it is that simple. The Bloc are fairly green and have significant climate change actions. While lots of NDP are not concerned about climate change at all but are union voters. Also quite a few people concerned about climate change would still vote liberal despite the pipeline issue as they would see it as better than the conservative option.

[Mike K.]

The last and only time a party has formed government with less than 35 percent of the national popular vote was with John A. Macdonald in 1867—with 34.8 percent. Last night’s election is expected to settle at 33% (currently 33.06%), setting a new record. The Conservatives garnered 34.4% last night, as the numbers currently stand.

[Mike K.]

I don't think it is that simple. The Bloc are fairly green and have significant climate change actions. While lots of NDP are not concerned about climate change at all but are union voters. Also quite a few people concerned about climate change would still vote liberal despite the pipeline issue as they would see it as better than the conservative option.

The Bloc now have the absolute best case scenario to guarantee more monies funnelled into Quebec, which the Quebec-centric Liberal Party will be more than glad to support under the guise of maintaining a strong relationship with its coalition partner.

[Victoria Watcher]

"coalition partner"?  a coalition means that the other party gets cabinet ministers etc.  there is no coalition between the liberals and bloc.

[G-Man]

Quebec will do ok but in a minority where another election is around the corner there is a large incentive to ensure that overall there is not any favorites played.

[Victoria Watcher]

yup we don't have long to wait for the next election.

 

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 22 October 2019 - 07:06 AM.

[Mike K.]

"coalition partner"? a coalition means that the other party gets cabinet ministers etc. there is no coalition between the liberals and bloc.

You’re right, that was bad verbiage on my part.

[Mike K.]

What’s the consensus on Bernier?

[Cats4Hire]

That PPC shouldn't have been called a "major party" and been tracked under other like the Communist, Christian-Heritage, Animal Rights, etc parties 

[Wayne]

With Alberta pissed, Quebec's entitled culture, if anything further will develop based on last nights results.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...nment-1.5329756

 

"Politicians have seen the writing on the wall, that if we don't work together here, things are going to look pretty nasty,"

[Mike K.]

Looking at the Victoria results, Macdonald’s 15,686 votes likely gave Collins the win. Collins beat Kooy with 23,290 votes vs Kooy’s 20,846.

Rankin won in 2015 with 30,397 votes. Collins lost the NDP 7,000 votes.

[Victoria Watcher]

That PPC shouldn't have been called a "major party" and been tracked under other like the Communist, Christian-Heritage, Animal Rights, etc parties

they had a seat. the leader had a seat. that counts for something. next election they can be less heard.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 22 October 2019 - 07:37 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

Looking at the Victoria results, Macdonald’s 15,686 votes likely gave Collins the win. Collins beat Kooy with 23,290 votes vs Kooy’s 20,846.

Rankin won in 2015 with 30,397 votes. Collins lost the NDP 7,000 votes.

except there was no liberal candidate in 2015. liberal supporters had a “free vote” like when a penalty is called on the football defence and the offence gets a free play with no possible negative co sequences. so bad comparison.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 22 October 2019 - 07:40 AM.

[Kapten Kapsell]

My predictions were awesomely bad. Onwards and upwards!

I didn't watch this thread for several weeks.  What were your predictions?  A liberal majority?  A conservative minority? 

[Mike K.]

except there was no liberal candidate in 2015. liberal supporters had a “free vote” like when a penalty is called on the football defence and the offence gets a free play with no possible negative co sequences. so bad comparison.

2011 had 30,679 for NDP, Collins lost the party 7,000 compared to that election as well.

In 2011 the Liberals got 8,448, so Macdonald doubled support.

[Mike K.]

I didn't watch this thread for several weeks.  What were your predictions?  A liberal majority?  A conservative minority? 

 

I didn't quite that far, but locally I thought the NDP would be unseated by the Greens. And it would have happened had Nikki Macdonald not been such a strong candidate for the party, effectively doubling support from the last time a Liberal ran (2011).