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#221 spanky123

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 06:23 PM

They could also wait for a change in council’s makeup to pursue something the current council isn’t likely to support. Time is on their side here.

 

True, but they need to pay property taxes.


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#222 spanky123

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 06:24 PM

As I understand it this is a sale of land and that this is not becoming "First Nation" land subject to the Indian Act. Thus they can do whatever they want with it but will still be subject to municipal laws and have to pay property taxes. They can sell it for condos and there will not be issues with the mortgages because it will be the same as any other land.

That said from reading the TC article it sounds like they want to build a long term sustainable business here. One that will benefit their community over the long term so I would expect to see some large things here like hotels or leasable office space. I think a casino could be a possibility but the city has already said no to that. I could also see some light industry go in here too.

 

They could sell it for condos but then that would not be a long term sustainable business. 



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Posted 26 May 2019 - 07:00 PM

It seems to me that the FN owners could develop a very successful tourism operation on part of the land. A longhouse with a few totem poles would be very attractive to visitors. With a chance to partake in a salmon dinner, with bannock, this would be a big draw. I'm not advocating for some Disney-esque phoney tourist trap. This could be part of a larger development.

Couldn't agree more, and something I've advocated for years: the true heritage of this region has Zero to do with tea and crumpets or anything remotely "Old Blighty" (something pointed out to me on numerous occasions by my own British relatives) - a thoughtfully designed sensitively presented FN display/museum/complex, minus the temptation to include tacky stores selling stereotypical FN-related crap plastered all over coffee mugs or t-shirts, something a la the Polynesian Cultural Centre on Oahu, would be just the ticket. 

 

Visit some of the larger and wealthier FN's in Alberta - the Blood Nation comes immediately to mind - and check out their museum, a modern, very well done, and fascinating depiction of their people's culture - most critically designed and run by FN. Offhand I'm not aware of anything similar on local FN lands, although I could be wrong. If such a venue exists its certainly not well known. Nevertheless a large all encompassing museum or cultural center at Rock Bay as part of a FN-themed complex would be amazing if done right.

 

Continental Europeans, Germans in particular, are enthralled by notions of North American FN, so it wouldn't it be tremendous if we could give them a true representation of real west coast FN culture - at the very least they would understand North American FN culture was so much more than the US-style wild west nonsense we all grew up with at the movies. And who better to oversee and present that vision than local FN's themselves?


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#224 LJ

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 07:24 PM

^And with the JAM statue out front you have a winner.


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Posted 27 May 2019 - 05:14 AM

TJV let's just focus on the project here.

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#226 Hotel Mike

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 07:31 AM

There is one worthwhile museum ASE. It's in Alert Bay and has a wonderful collection of potlatch artifacts, many of which were repatriated from other countries. 


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#227 tjv

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 08:18 AM

TJV let's just focus on the project here.

I was simply responding to Mike's comments in a professional manner with backup to my opinion

 

True, but they need to pay property taxes.

No they don't



#228 Mike K.

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 08:42 AM

It wasn't a comment, it was a request. We don't need a thesis on that issue, that's not what this discussion is about.


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Posted 27 May 2019 - 08:54 AM

Since D'Ambrosio is involved I'm going to optimistically assume that the plan is something along the lines of Selkirk Waterfront 2.0. Which would be fine by me, although I'd prefer that they bump up the density of everything by at least 50% and that some large rental buildings are part of the mix.



#230 spanky123

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 09:10 AM

I was simply responding to Mike's comments in a professional manner with backup to my opinion

 

No they don't

 

It is fee simple land, why would they not pay property taxes?



#231 Rob Randall

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 09:11 AM

Since D'Ambrosio is involved I'm going to optimistically assume that the plan is something along the lines of Selkirk Waterfront 2.0. Which would be fine by me, although I'd prefer that they bump up the density of everything by at least 50% and that some large rental buildings are part of the mix.

 

In other words what his Selkirk project should have had.


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#232 spanky123

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 09:12 AM

Since D'Ambrosio is involved I'm going to optimistically assume that the plan is something along the lines of Selkirk Waterfront 2.0. Which would be fine by me, although I'd prefer that they bump up the density of everything by at least 50% and that some large rental buildings are part of the mix.

 

Where did you see that D'Ambrosio was involved with this project?



#233 Rob Randall

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 09:31 AM

The sale is expected to be finalized early in 2020, said Bob Mason, who is heading the project team for the First Nations. [...] The project team also includes Victoria architect Franc D’Ambrosio.

 

https://www.timescol...site-1.23833451


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#234 spanky123

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 09:36 AM

 

Thanks Rob, didn't see that one.



#235 Mike K.

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 09:42 AM

In other words what his Selkirk project should have had.


There remains quite a huge swath of surface parking in that area, which belongs to the overall master plan. I can see them being redeveloped in due course.

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#236 Rob Randall

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 09:47 AM

Thanks Rob, didn't see that one.

 

Not surprising, that TC article is the only place that information can be easily found.


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