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#21 Nparker

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 12:14 PM

Bah, they made it on their own for less than $1k per unit, already spent.  So be it.  At least nobody mandated or taxed them to do it.

Agreed, but you'd never convince me to do this unless it was somehow mandated by law. I could spend the $15.66/month it would cost me additional on my strata fees on something else.



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Posted 13 June 2015 - 12:21 PM

But these are green jobs!!!!
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#23 Mike K.

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 01:01 PM

But these are green jobs!!!!

 

I could hardly see the sky there were so many workers on that roof.


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#24 pherthyl

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 02:39 PM

It's a saving of ~$35 /yr per resident on energy costs. 

 

Dockside green hung their hat on some pretty questionable shit as well.  The appearance often matters more than the reality.   Hence why a couple cans of paint on a house will get you a few thousand on resale.


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#25 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 02:41 PM

Dockside green hung their hat on some pretty questionable **** as well.  

 

They sure did, and got more national and North American media than any other development here.  But it did not live up to expectations.


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#26 pherthyl

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 02:45 PM

They sure did, and got more national and North American media than any other development here.  But it did not live up to expectations.

 

Probably a good business strategy though.  Until the condo market collapsed. 



#27 Mike K.

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 02:48 PM

The market only collapsed at Dockside. Everywhere around them projects kept going up while Dockside sat idle.


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#28 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 03:32 PM

  He must be a good salesman.  

 

 

 

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Bruce Mackenzie, Central Park strata council president, right, and electrician Michael Geldreich, of Power to the People, with some of the 60 solar electric panels installed on the Pembroke Street building's roof.   Photograph By ADRIAN LAM, Times Colonist

 

 

www.facebook.com/michael.geldreich.52

 

Ah ok, the TC got the names backwards.

 

So the salesman, head of the strata council is the Master Franchisor for Handyman Connection:  

 

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#29 Nparker

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 04:36 PM

...The appearance often matters more than the reality...

I believe this is Seaterra's motto - correct? Of course it sounds better in latin: Species utrum magis saepe quam sit in re



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Posted 14 June 2015 - 01:39 PM

So what's the strata going to do when a future development casts a shadow over the panels?

 

That's an interesting point...I would if council would take this into consideration in terms of approving re-zoning applications.


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#31 Mike K.

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Posted 14 June 2015 - 03:36 PM

Just like views, the City is not responsible for what people choose to do with their properties and what a future development may hinder.


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#32 johnk

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Posted 14 June 2015 - 04:38 PM

Maybe the residents looked at the ROI and decided to do it because they liked the idea despite the poor ROI. Can't blame them for that. Their money, their choice.

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Posted 14 June 2015 - 05:22 PM

Maybe the residents looked at the ROI and decided to do it because they liked the idea despite the poor ROI. Can't blame them for that. Their money, their choice.

 

The ROI at current hydro rates isn't so great (although better than letting the money sit in the contingency fund if it isn't needed).   Fact is those rates are going up 6% next year and more after that.  Could turn out to be a decent investment.



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Posted 16 June 2015 - 10:18 PM

Solar panels are warrantied for 25 years.

And counting on the sun being still shining 25 years from now seems like a reasonable gamble.

That said the ROI on this doesn't seem great.

 

They need to be cleaned far more regularly than that and the output power will start to drop before the warranty runs out. I doubt anyone did this for the ROI. If they feel good about using renewable power then that must have been factored into the investment.



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Posted 17 June 2015 - 04:33 AM

They need to be cleaned far more regularly than that and the output power will start to drop before the warranty runs out.

 

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 06:06 AM

They need to be cleaned far more regularly than that and the output power will start to drop before the warranty runs out. I doubt anyone did this for the ROI. If they feel good about using renewable power then that must have been factored into the investment.


Hosing off the panels once a year I'm sure will make or break this installation.

#37 Baro

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 02:31 PM

Someone I know just bought a unit in this building, I'll have to ask her about all this.


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Posted 21 February 2017 - 01:08 PM

This thing seems cool:

 

http://smartflowerso...artflower-plus/

 

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#39 LeoVictoria

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Posted 21 February 2017 - 01:46 PM

Hmm.. Too much complexity.  40% more output but I guarantee that you would be better off installing 40% more panels.   Interesting idea though.



#40 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 21 February 2017 - 01:48 PM

Hmm.. Too much complexity.  40% more output but I guarantee that you would be better off installing 40% more panels.   Interesting idea though.

 

You might be right.  The mechanics of that thing looks a bit daunting and perhaps delicate.


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