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#1 amor de cosmos

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Posted 04 December 2015 - 04:59 PM

of course there's the saanich municipal hall, 1965

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http://www.historicp...eu.aspx?id=1806

5042113470_39c9b0fe9c_b.jpgSaanich Municipal Hall_1 by Amber's Locations, on Flickr

maclaurin building, 1978

7456457_2fddd2c0a2_b.jpgMacLaurin Bldg by Leon R, on Flickr

petch building, 1986

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#2 weirdie

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Posted 04 December 2015 - 05:10 PM

I feel like the Pacific Forestry Center fits into this category easily.

#3 amor de cosmos

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Posted 04 December 2015 - 05:34 PM

~1985

3889717440_6abc4587a7_b.jpgPacific Forestry Centre by Lotus Johnson, on Flickr

vic general, 1983

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http://www.yyjnews.c...neral-hospital/

#4 johnk

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Posted 04 December 2015 - 05:59 PM

I forget the name but those condos on Johnson just west of the Mondrian.

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Posted 04 December 2015 - 06:09 PM

I'm thinking of the CIBC tower, Royal Bank at Fort and Douglas, Sitkum Lodge, the medical building across the street from the Jubilee Hospital, the office block behind the RBCM, the Eric Martin Pavillion. What about Spectrum School in its original form and that goofy complex at Shelbourne and McKenzie (also in its original form)?



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Posted 04 December 2015 - 06:18 PM

And that one on Blanshard between Pandora and Cormorant. Shocking but true, Victorians weren't afraid to slap a coat of brown brick on their brutalist buildings. I suppose the alternative would have been Tudor-Brutalist or some such thing.


Edited by aastra, 04 December 2015 - 06:18 PM.

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Posted 04 December 2015 - 07:42 PM

PL James building at 1230/1260 Government? Behind that awning.

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Posted 04 December 2015 - 10:12 PM

Martin Segger (in his book) describes that ~1950 building as "minimalist Moderne".

 

CHEK-TV's building is another one for the brutalist list.



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Posted 04 December 2015 - 10:43 PM

I am in charge of cleaning up the appearance of 2020 Richmond Medical Building as it is dirty. I was thinking of "ice blasting" it to restore the original brick and concrete finish and then sealing it with a mat clear sealer. Someone else suggested re-cladding it but I can't see that looking any better.

 

Any suggestions?

 

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#10 amor de cosmos

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Posted 04 December 2015 - 11:50 PM

^ maybe this wouldn't be practical in that case but the salk institute in inlaid with teak rather than brick. or is that the sort of thing you meant by re-cladding? wood seems to give it a softer look, see the interior of the saanich municipal hall also.

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i forgot about the space-frame over the entrance to vic general. that's a bonus :cool:

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#11 Barra

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Posted 05 December 2015 - 12:05 AM

Roberts House condominium on Toronto St.
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Posted 05 December 2015 - 06:28 AM

^ maybe this wouldn't be practical in that case but the salk institute in inlaid with teak rather than brick. or is that the sort of thing you meant by re-cladding? wood seems to give it a softer look, see the interior of the saanich municipal hall also.

 

 

Yes those are the kind of ideas I was looking for.

 

Do you think it is wrong to want to try and change an exterior like this? ....   or should it be restored to its original finish?

 

The pollution that has embedded itself into the concrete over the years makes it look awful. It reminds me of a neglected building in Chernobyl. I have to do something with it.



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Posted 05 December 2015 - 07:25 AM

I am in charge of cleaning up the appearance of 2020 Richmond Medical Building as it is dirty. I was thinking of "ice blasting" it to restore the original brick and concrete finish and then sealing it with a mat clear sealer. Someone else suggested re-cladding it but I can't see that looking any better.
 
Any suggestions?
 
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I would be afraid of the long-term effects of a sealer. Will it get cloudy or flake off after several years? Recladding is expensive and in these cases with brutalist buildings is like putting a frilly dress on Arnold Schwarzenegger. I would just go with periodic cleaning. I had never heard of ice blasting:

https://en.m.wikiped...sting_(cleaning)

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Posted 05 December 2015 - 08:11 AM

The thing that ruins the original architecture of a building are all the rube goldberg communication antennas that keep getting added and stuck on in whatever space is available with no thought to how it looks from the street.

 

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Posted 05 December 2015 - 09:10 AM

Maybe North America's newest modern day example? I know not Victoria, but...

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#16 amor de cosmos

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Posted 05 December 2015 - 10:08 AM

Yes those are the kind of ideas I was looking for.
 
Do you think it is wrong to want to try and change an exterior like this? ....   or should it be restored to its original finish?
 
The pollution that has embedded itself into the concrete over the years makes it look awful. It reminds me of a neglected building in Chernobyl. I have to do something with it.


i don't think theres's anything wrong with cleaning up the exterior. if you're worried about affecting the original character of the building check out this reno of erickson's eppich house, which was built in 1972 & maybe was due for an update:
http://www.moosehead...t/eppich-house/
http://www.arthureri...t-eppich-house/

if there were ever a case where a sensitive reno was important it would be that. it's different from before but keeps a lot of its original character. with a building like that you wouldn't want to just cover it with drywall, for example. just one person's opinion

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Posted 05 December 2015 - 10:49 AM

 I had never heard of ice blasting:

 

I should have been more specific.

 

https://en.wikipedia...ry-ice_blasting



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Posted 05 December 2015 - 10:53 AM

I would be afraid of the long-term effects of a sealer.

 

Again, I should have been more specific. I was thinking more of a "densifier" as opposed to a "coating"

 

https://en.wikipedia...crete_densifier



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Posted 05 December 2015 - 11:08 AM

i don't think theres's anything wrong with cleaning up the exterior.

 

My thoughts exactly.

 

What we are experiencing at 2020 Richmond is exactly the same as the Eppich house. Have a look at the right hand side of the picture where the concrete wall on the extreme right does not have a history of rain washing pollutants down over it. There must be a different configuration at the top of the wall that impedes that.

This is what we have to clean up and restore the look to original. I think we will need to install some small metal flashing on the tops with a drip ledge.

 

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Posted 05 December 2015 - 11:15 AM

Here is a shot of the west side (rear) of the building that will soon face the new "Ian's Coffee" development.

 

Nasty.

 

We have our work cut out for us here.

 

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