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[Mike K.]

You said 13,000.

Speaking of production, Tesla has halted orders of the cheap truck because the expensive trucks stopped selling.

- https://www.reuters....now-2024-08-10/

[Victoria Watcher]

13,000 on June 15th.

 

https://finance.yaho...-163314428.html

 

1,500/week since then.

 

So about another 10,000.

 

23,000 sold for the $20,000 extra.  Not bad if you can get it.  An extra $460,000,000 for Tesla.  There was no real cost to Tesla for the Founders Series.  

 

Soon the other 1.977 million reservation-holders can make their choice.  They have not lost their spot in line.

 

I said 23,000.

[Victoria Watcher]

Speaking of production, Tesla has halted orders of the cheap truck because the expensive trucks stopped selling.

- https://www.reuters....now-2024-08-10/

 

Said Reuters.    This is what really happened:

 

https://x.com/Sawyer...087544621543856

 

[Mike K.]

You said 13,000, then you went back and edited your posts, I see.

Anyway, tiny numbers here. Not even worth talking about.
Ford sold 13,000 F-series trucks just last week.

They’ll sell 23,000 by tomorrow, since last week.

[Victoria Watcher]

I said 13,000, then I added the production since the 1,3000 figure.  I can ony edit for 30 minutes or something.

[Victoria Watcher]

You said 13,000, then you went back and edited your posts, I see.

Anyway, tiny numbers here. Not even worth talking about.
Ford sold 13,000 F-series trucks just last week.

They’ll sell 23,000 by tomorrow, since last week.

 

Not electric!

[Mike K.]

This is just the dumbest.

[Victoria Watcher]

https://ca.everythingelectric.show/

 

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[Victoria Watcher]

Special Sneak Peek inside Tesla's German Gigafactory!

 

YouTube video:    https://youtu.be/dFC...z7dSvGw1ybKZ15G

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[Victoria Watcher]

Nissan dealers in the United States aren't having a good year. Profits are down 70% versus the same period 2023, according to a report published by Automotive News. 

 

A retailer with knowledge on Nissan's struggles told Automotive News around 38 percent of Nissan's 1,071 dealers in America are losing money. Profitability is down to its lowest levels in 15 years. According to the report, that comes down to two main reasons: A lack of hybrid offerings and an over-saturation of dealerships.

 

Somehow, Nissan is the only big automaker in the US without a mild-hybrid or plug-in vehicle in its lineup. While the company is preparing to fill that gap with a plug-in hybrid based on the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV and a hybridized Rouge in 2027, its competitors are raking in sales of hybrid cars. Automotive News points out that nearly 30 percent of all Toyotas sold last year had some sort of hybrid assistance, and hybrids accounted for roughly half of Accord and CR-V sales in 2023. 

 

 

https://www.motor1.c...fits-down-2024/

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 16 August 2024 - 02:44 PM.

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[Victoria Watcher]

Hundreds of $1000 deposits for XPeng G6 in Australia

 

Buyers already showing interest in cut-price Tesla Model Y rival

 

Bullish talk of the new XPeng G6 electric SUV taking on the Tesla Model Y has been backed up by hundreds of $1000 pre-orders for the vehicle.

 

 

The G6 will officially be launched with a sub $60,000 drive-away price in late September ahead of first deliveries to buyers in October.

 

The Tesla Model Y fighter, which is currently completing local testing and development, will be sold in both standard and long range configurations in Australia

It is the first in a series of models from Chinese luxury EV brand XPeng, with the G9 SUV expected to follow by late 2025 and the X9 people-mover currently closing in on confirmation.

 

 

 

https://www.carsales...stralia-147124/

 

 

VIDEO review on YouTube:  

 

Xpeng's G6 DESTROYS the Tesla Model Y in Australia in nearly every way

 

https://youtu.be/cPb...mF-LO0SV7LP2jUd

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 18 August 2024 - 04:25 AM.

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The 2025 Gravity SUV is the new model that startup Lucid Motors has chosen to follow its beautiful Air luxury sedan. It has two electric motors that provide all-wheel drive, and Lucid is claiming the Gravity's maximum range will exceed 440 miles per charge. We expect that number to apply to range-topping models, with less pricey options getting a smaller battery with lower—but still impressive—range estimates. Both two- and three-row versions of the Gravity will be offered, with the three-row getting six- and seven-passenger seating options. The seats fold flat to provide plenty of space for cargo, and there's a decent-size front trunk ahead of the windshield in the place where a gas-powered SUV's engine would be. Like the Air, the Gravity has a cabin with a mix of luxurious materials and tech features. A 34-inch curved digital display screen floats above the dashboard, displaying the Gravity's gauge cluster and infotainment. The Gravity will face heady competition from established EV SUVs such as the Audi Q8 e-tron, the Cadillac Lyriq, the Jaguar I-Pace, and the Tesla Model X.

 

https://www.caranddr...-motors/gravity

 

 

Road To Lucid Gravity Update! Production, Design, NACS, Technology, Space, Performance, & Much More

 

VIDEO on YouTube:  https://youtu.be/Bs1..._bweV6EjnvsZWCo

 

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 18 August 2024 - 06:38 AM.

[Mike K.]

In fact it was Fields who was behind Hertz’s now infamous October 2021 purchase of 100,000 Teslas at the height of the speculative EV boom. The company was worth a little more than $4 billion in revenue at the time; the deal fueled a $119 billion surge in Tesla’s market cap and turned it into a trillion-dollar company overnight.
Fields added that insurance rates remain excessive for EVs specifically, a fact the National Association of Insurance Commissioners attributed in February to the lack of both a steady supply of replacement parts and trained mechanics authorized to service high-voltage vehicles.
“When people look at buying EVs, they also look at the insurance piece of it. And insuring an EV is much more expensive than insuring an ICE [internal combustion engine] vehicle,” he said.

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Tesla’s U.S. sales fell year on year for the past two quarters in a row, and currently it’s tracking toward a drop of about 50,000 units to 600,000 vehicles, according to Cox Automotive’s Kelley Blue Book. Even if you smooth out the last six quarters, growth in its domestic market has effectively ground to a halt.

Musk has been quick to point to the high borrowing cost of Tesla as the chief culprit, arguing that the desire to own Tesla is “indistinguishable from infinite” once the price is low enough.

“As interest rates drop and that monthly payment drops, then they’re able to afford it and they buy the car. It’s pretty straightforward,” Musk told investors during the Q4 earnings call in January.

Later in April, he added: “The vast majority of people are living paycheck to paycheck. So it actually makes a difference if the cost per month of lease refinancing is $10 one way or the other.”

- https://stocks.apple...0RzSDvCAFsrZYNw

It’s true. 80-90% of people driving new cars don’t own them. Many will end up in financial ruin, or near financial ruin, when they go down the path of financing, especially when buying an EV. The EV benefits for most people, will never outweigh the drawbacks.

Musk isn’t mincing words when he says $10/month makes a difference for people, and that’s exactly why his sales tactic is to price the cars by subtracting gasoline cost they’re supposedly saving. In real life though, the cost of tires, the cost of charging and insurance are going to end up either costing the owner more, or they’ll reach parity, if they’re lucky. Rarely does a situation arise where the EV owner is truly ahead, apples to apples. I mean it starts with the huge premium of buying the EV equivalent of an ICE.

[Mike K.]

A friend’s Tesla was in an accident recently.

It’s sitting at a repair facility as they wait on parts. It could be a very, very long time before she’s back behind the wheel of that vehicle. It’s been about a month since the crash.

[spanky123]

A friend’s Tesla was in an accident recently.

It’s sitting at a repair facility as they wait on parts. It could be a very, very long time before she’s back behind the wheel of that vehicle. It’s been about a month since the crash.

 

Had a buddy wait 4 months after a hit to the rear quarter panel.

[Mike K.]

Yeah. It’s a complete disaster.

Whatever it takes to get the car ordered and sold, Tesla will tell you.

You want to FAFO? Go for it