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[Victoria Watcher]

Why not move down there now? I can’t imagine most Canadians would stay where they are if suddenly the entire US was open to them. 

 

I think most Canadians do not have the qualifications to legally move and work there.  

[max.bravo]

Exactly. It’s not easy to take a whole family to another country with immigration and visas. I could probably find work, but my wife stays at home. Not to mention the exchange rate. I’m hopeful that annexation and switching to the US dollar they might give us par as an incentive

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[Mike K.]

What I mean is, the US is a country of immigrants. Why are Canadians waiting to he annexed, instead of immigrating?

Are Canadians assuming that becoming annexed means we gain the rights of US citizens? We could become a territory and much of the rights and privileges we currently take for granted will become void.

[Victoria Watcher]

What I mean is, the US is a country of immigrants. Why are Canadians waiting to he annexed, instead of immigrating?

 

They only take a small number of immigrants, unless you secure one of the H1 type visas.

[max.bravo]

Ask 100 recent Canadian immigrants if Canada was their first choice. 99 of them will say no; they would’ve preferred America, but they didn’t get in.

Edited by max.bravo, 19 March 2025 - 11:50 AM.

[Mike K.]

No time like the present to file the paperwork.

I don’t understand this annexation dream. It’s likely hinging on a lot of assumptions and hopes, but annexation would not go how we think it would.

[max.bravo]

It will go like this. Canadas politicians will cripple its own people with retaliatory tariffs. Compounded with our abysmal growth it’s gonna be a recession the likes of which we’ve never seen.
When it gets bad enough that nobody in Canada is happy, America will come and offer to make us a state. With US dollars, cheaper housing, less taxes, more freedom to live anywhere in the states, and an immediate decrease in price of groceries and cost of living.
When polling numbers show 40% are in favor America will come and occupy us with almost no resistance at all.

[Victoria Watcher]

But polling isn't near 40% yet.

 

I'm willing to see their offer though.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 19 March 2025 - 11:58 AM.

[Tony]

Ask 100 recent Canadian immigrants if Canada was their first choice. 99 of them will say no; they w

ould’ve preferred America, but they didn’t get in.

 

Opinion or supported by some data? Does it depend on the country of origin? Does it vary if they are business focused vs other variables?

 

I have direct and indirect contacts with immigrants from a variety of countries and Canada was their first choice often because they had family connections.

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[Victoria Watcher]

I can’t imagine most Canadians would stay where they are if suddenly the entire US was open to them. Just like most Americans don’t live in interior northern states, but prefer the coasts and the south.

 

Accurate.  Canada would be as sparse as Minnesota if we had freedom of movement.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 19 March 2025 - 12:03 PM.

[m3m]

It will never get above 5% support in Quebec

[Barrister]

For the moment my wife is happy being here. But she likes going back and forth.

[dasmo]

Exactly. It’s not easy to take a whole family to another country with immigration and visas. I could probably find work, but my wife stays at home. Not to mention the exchange rate. I’m hopeful that annexation and switching to the US dollar they might give us par as an incentive

Instead you are going to be $500 poorer!

[Victoria Watcher]

Canadians are already thousands of dollars poorer every year than Americans because we let the folks that limit our resource extraction run our country.  The woke.  We created them.

[dasmo]

It will never get above 5% support in Quebec

The crown also has individual contracts with a thousand nations not just Quebec and the provinces. They will not side with the US. They literally genocided them. No need for radar insinuation.

[Mike K.]

It will go like this. Canadas politicians will cripple its own people with retaliatory tariffs. Compounded with our abysmal growth it’s gonna be a recession the likes of which we’ve never seen.
When it gets bad enough that nobody in Canada is happy, America will come and offer to make us a state. With US dollars, cheaper housing, less taxes, more freedom to live anywhere in the states, and an immediate decrease in price of groceries and cost of living.
When polling numbers show 40% are in favor America will come and occupy us with almost no resistance at all.

This will all be settled after the next election.

I wouldn’t let the tariffs dictate too much of life’s choices right now. Just remember that we have tariffed, and are tariffed, all the time. Life goes on, markets adjust.

Currently the exchange rate will be absorbing a huge chunk of what the tariffs will be, so the pain won’t be anywhere near as bad as we catastrophize it will be at 25%. What is hurting Canadians are the tariffs we’ve just introduced on ourselves, by our government on goods coming into Canada. It is little more than a cash grab by our government, at this point. We tariff a lot of goods coming in from a lot of places. It hurts our economy, too, by blocking more affordable options and more choice on the markets. We simply don’t see the products that we heavily tariff, or rarely see them, or they’re quite expensive and have low demand.

[Victoria Watcher]

This will all be settled after the next election.

I wouldn’t let the tariffs dictate too much of life’s choices right now. Just remember that we have tariffed, and are tariffed, all the time. Life goes on, markets adjust.

Currently the exchange rate will be absorbing a huge chunk of what the tariffs will be, so the pain won’t be anywhere near as bad as we catastrophize it will be at 25%. What is hurting Canadians are the tariffs we’ve just introduced on ourselves, by our government on goods coming into Canada. It is little more than a cash grab by our government, at this point. We tariff a lot of goods coming in from a lot of places. It hurts our economy, too, by blocking more affordable options and more choice on the markets. We simply don’t see the products that we heavily tariff, or rarely see them, or they’re quite expensive and have low demand.

 

 

It's always worked out, true.

[Tony]

Perhaps the tariff related income we collect will be used to support those workers most impacted by those from the US.

 

Those that have more money to spend will pay more in support than those who have less to spend. Another form of a progressive income tax.

[Matt R.]

^

I believe Carney said that exact thing.

[Victoria Watcher]

Activists sprayed paint on the exterior of a Tesla dealership in Montreal on Wednesday, as cases of vandalism climb in the United States and around the world against Elon Musk's electric car company.

 

Montreal police arrested a young man and woman at the dealership on Décarie Boulevard in the city's Côte-des-Neiges–Notre-Dame-de-Grâce borough.

 

The climate group Last Generation Canada claimed responsibility. In a statement posted online, the group called on Canada to "stand up" to Musk, who they said is "destroying democracies and spreading climate denial."

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...alism-1.7487684

 

 

called on Canada to "stand up" to Musk, who they said is "destroying democracies and spreading climate denial."

 

 

 

Examining Elon Musk’s Claim That a Carbon Tax Is a Simple Solution to Climate Change

 

https://www.cato.org...-climate-change

 

 

On Trump leaving the Paris Agreement

“Climate change is real. Leaving Paris is not good for America or the world.” — On Trump leaving the Paris Agreement, June 2017

https://trellis.net/...climate-change/

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