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The Yates on Yates
Uses: condo, commercial
Address: 848-852 Yates Street
Municipality: Victoria
Region: Downtown Victoria
Storeys: 20
Condo units: 122 (1BR, 2BR, 3BR, 2BR + den)
Sales status: sold out / resales only
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[Downtown] The Yates on Yates | Condos; commercial | 20-storeys | Under construction


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#961 aastra

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 11:29 AM

 

Why not address the predictable issues with the first go-round?

 

In the design stage, I mean. Before you actually build the darned thing.


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#962 magmazing

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 12:14 PM

The path was designed to be more than double the width it currently is. Chard and and strata council say the City screwed up and didn't get the access to the next door property's half of the path.  So instead of one wide shared path for Yates/Vivid and that Yates Centre building that would be gated after 10pm, we're currently stuck with two narrow gated paths with a crappy fence down the middle. 


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#963 Nparker

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 12:30 PM

Without the Yates Centre path the YoY/Vivid path is just too narrow to be useful.


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#964 aastra

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 12:55 PM

 

The path was designed to be more than double the width it currently is. Chard and and strata council say the City screwed up and didn't get the access to the next door property's half of the path.  So instead of one wide shared path for Yates/Vivid and that Yates Centre building that would be gated after 10pm, we're currently stuck with two narrow gated paths with a crappy fence down the middle.

 

Well, maybe I'm being too hard on the mid-block walkway program. After all, who could have possibly predicted these issues?

 

 

Posted 08 August 2016 - 03:22 PM

What I'm saying is, put another much nicer and much wider walkway right beside the Coronet's walkway (maybe 2-3 times as wide) and also change the dividers along the property line to something more pedestrian-permeable than what's there now and you might actually end up with a decent passage that could actually be appealing.


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#965 aastra

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 01:03 PM

If there's no fundamental willingness or commitment to doing these walkways properly then why bother doing them at all? G-Man might counter and claim any walkway is a good walkway even if it's a terrible walkway. But to my ear that would be no different than a skyscraper fanatic claiming any tall building is a good tall building even if it's a terrible tall building.



#966 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 01:13 PM

Without the Yates Centre path the YoY/Vivid path is just too narrow to be useful.


Is the walkway narrower than apartment building hallways?

Are the hallways of YoY too narrow to be useful?

#967 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 01:16 PM

The article says it’s only 1.22m wide. But a photo shows that part/most of it is much wider.

https://www.timescol...path-1.24362518

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 12 October 2021 - 01:16 PM.


#968 aastra

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 01:21 PM

 

Are the hallways of YoY too narrow to be useful?

 

Are you encouraging the CoV to start pushing the limits re: the literal definition of usefulness? If the passage is wide enough for size 14 feet to fit sideways then it should be useful for many people to shuffle through? (one way only, no passing)



#969 aastra

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 01:23 PM

If the passage is wide enough for a clothesline then it should be useful for clipping messages onto the line and passing them to the other side?



#970 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 01:30 PM

I’m just skeptical of the residents calling it a COVID issue when it’s probably a general vagrancy in the area issue.
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#971 Nparker

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 01:30 PM

Is the walkway narrower than apartment building hallways? Are the hallways of YoY too narrow to be useful?

An effective mid-block walkway should be more like a narrow street than a wide hallway.



#972 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 01:31 PM

I think that photo shows most of it is much wider than an apartment hall.

#973 aastra

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 01:38 PM

My narrow passage for sideways shuffling would of course have two levels, to keep people safely apart.

 

To get back to what we were talking about earlier re: the impracticality of re-working certain types of buildings that face into these passages: in order for this walkway to realize any of its potential I think the burden would now have to fall upon the old movie theatre building to undergo some significant ground-level renovations.


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#974 aastra

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 01:40 PM

Until then, it's looking like a dud for the foreseeable future.



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Posted 12 October 2021 - 05:10 PM

It seems the Chard side of the project was specifically built with the walkway inside and their is an office building that could easily accommodate ground floor commercial that would make an amazing walkway.

Visit my blog at: https://www.sidewalkingvictoria.com 

 

It has a whole new look!

 


#976 RustyNail

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Posted 14 October 2021 - 06:23 PM

I think that photo shows most of it is much wider than an apartment hall.


Note that there are two mid block walkways, one for the Vivid/Yates building and one for the Yates centre building. Each walkway has its own set of gates on both ends (4 gates total, 2 each).

The wide part for the Vivid/Yates walkway you're seeing is before the Yates side gate. Once within the gates, the walkway is extremely narrow for it's entire length, probably more narrow than the lobby hallways, though I would have to measure. Barely enough room for two people to pass one another without bumping shoulders.

Source: I live in Vivid.
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