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#141 amor de cosmos

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 08:17 AM

Does Floyd's have special dispensation from any municipal regulations regarding exterior paint colours or do no such rules exist anywhere in the CRD? What I wonder is if a new building were being proposed to be such a garish tone, could a local government turn down the proposal and request a colour change?


there was that controversy over the old dominion hotel because the colour they painted it wasn't approved, but that was victoria, not saanich

#142 lanforod

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 08:19 AM

Drove by the building the other day and it looks like they are sparing all expense on the exterior at least.  This may be a tough market for them, there are a number of upscale breakfast and lunch offerings in the area and I am not sure that "suburban greasy spoon" is a winning concept.

 

I haven't eaten at Floyd's before. Who are you talking about that are their competitors in Royal Oak/Broadmead area? We talked about the Village; beyond that there's really not much other than say, brunch at Fireside - certainly not a competitor or McDonald's/Timmy's.



#143 Nparker

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 08:30 AM

there was that controversy over the old dominion hotel because the colour they painted it wasn't approved, but that was victoria, not saanich

I don't recall hearing any concerns from the CoV for Floyd's choice of paint colour at their (now closed) Quadra & Yates location or when they recently painted the former James Bay Tearoom.



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Posted 02 April 2019 - 08:33 AM

I haven't eaten at Floyd's before. Who are you talking about that are their competitors in Royal Oak/Broadmead area? We talked about the Village; beyond that there's really not much other than say, brunch at Fireside - certainly not a competitor or McDonald's/Timmy's.

 

Med Grill, Romeos, the cafe at HCP.



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Posted 02 April 2019 - 09:03 AM

Does Floyd's have special dispensation from any municipal regulations regarding exterior paint colours or do no such rules exist anywhere in the CRD? What I wonder is if a new building were being proposed to be such a garish tone, could a local government turn down the proposal and request a colour change?

 

Short answer is no.

 

Municipalities are able to consider the form and character of development through the Development Permit process. The Local Government Act does not allow municipalities to set requirements on "the particulars" of exterior materials, cladding, colours, etc. in commercial, industrial, or multi-family residential development. So you'll see in the DP guidelines lots of "should" statements and design objectives, but no "thou shalt use only neutral tones." Staff and Council may comment on those things, but they're on very shaky ground if they turn down a DP because of the colour palette alone.

 

Where things get interesting is single-family neighbourhoods with estate covenants, such as Broadmead. I think that all of the properties in Broadmead are subject to a legal covenant that requires any exterior renovations to be approved by the Neighbourhood Association, and they have the power through the legal covenant to regulate materials, colours, etc. It was the same in the neighbourhood I grew up in, and I remember there being an absolute furor when somebody sold their house and the new owner immediately painted the garage doors indigo



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Posted 02 April 2019 - 09:11 AM

Didn't that old hotel proposal on Belleville catch heck for the colour?

 

Edit: I was thinking of this project, and now that my memory has been refreshed I see that the orange colour was only part of the problem. It was also too boring. And too outrageous. And too too but too not too enough.

 

 

Councillors argue, developer fumes over Inner Harbour hotel project
BY KIM WESTAD Times Colonist staff
July 2007

The bright-orange exterior is all but gone but that quibble seemed forgotten yesterday, as Victoria councillors grew frustrated instead about who should weigh in on the design of a new hotel in a prime Inner Harbour location.

And as councillors argued, the developer fumed.

“I’m still frustrated with the whole process,” said Zack Bhatia, who wants to replace the Days Inn building at 427 Belleville St. with a nine-storey, 155-room hotel.

If the project is delayed one more time, Bhatia said, it’s unlikely it will proceed because construction costs are increasing by an average of one per cent a month.

“I just want an answer — yes or no. ... Good God, you have to think about other people’s lives at stake here.”

His initial plan for the site went to council in May. It was roundly criticized, particularly for the bright-orange painted concrete on much of the water-view building.


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#147 lanforod

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 09:14 AM

Med Grill, Romeos, the cafe at HCP.

 

Nope, none of those. Med Grill and Romeos don't do breakfast. Romoes is maybe a lunch competitor, Med Grill is more upscale.

Charlotte and the Quail? Really? http://www.charlotteandthequail.ca/



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Posted 02 April 2019 - 09:19 AM

there was that controversy over the old dominion hotel because the colour they painted it wasn't approved, but that was victoria, not saanich

 

Didn't that old hotel proposal on Belleville catch heck for the colour?

 

Where things can get hairy is if what's built (or in this case, painted) does not match the approved Development Permit. So Council cannot require the walls be red, but if you said they would be red and the Permit says they will be red but they end up being black, then you have not complied with the terms of the Permit.



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Posted 02 April 2019 - 09:27 AM

Nope, none of those. Med Grill and Romeos don't do breakfast. Romoes is maybe a lunch competitor, Med Grill is more upscale.

Charlotte and the Quail? Really? http://www.charlotteandthequail.ca/

 

That is a great, busy little spot.



#150 Matt R.

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 10:34 AM

Went once to the spot in Langford, got served medium sized eggs, never went back.

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 10:49 AM

I haven't eaten at Floyd's before. Who are you talking about that are their competitors in Royal Oak/Broadmead area? We talked about the Village; beyond that there's really not much other than say, brunch at Fireside - certainly not a competitor or McDonald's/Timmy's.

 

The Lakes at the HoJo's is an option in the area.


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#152 lanforod

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 12:28 PM

^ great, found 1. It's a viable competitor. 



#153 Jackerbie

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 12:36 PM

Also, Artisan Bistro in Broadmead Centre. Never been, but it's well reviewed on Google.


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#154 lanforod

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 01:36 PM

A couple of options. I think Floyd's will do fine. There are far more options for dinner in the area than breakfast.



#155 Mike K.

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 04:20 PM

It’s a rapidly growing neighbourhood. They’ll be fine.

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#156 lanforod

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 05:35 PM

^ very rapidly. There is a ton of stuff going up around here. Travino is nearly done; that must have been some 2-300 units. The rental building beside McDonald's just opened. Townhouses on the backside of BC Hydro there going up.



#157 Mike K.

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 05:54 AM

Are those townhouses under construction?

Hundreds of units coming to Elk Lake Drive, too.

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#158 lanforod

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 06:05 AM

Yup. I'll try get a picture of them soon
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