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The Haro
Uses: condo, commercial
Address: 5120-5144 Cordova Bay Road
Municipality: Saanich
Region: Urban core
Storeys: 4
Condo units: 86 (1BR, 2BR, sub-penthouse, penthouse)
Sales status: pre-sales
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[Saanich] 5120-5144 Cordova Bay Road | Condos; commercial | 4, 4 and 4-storeys | Proposed


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#141 AllseeingEye

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Posted 24 July 2018 - 04:56 PM

/\.....I would add a free injection site just for added blood pressure-raising fun.

 

Seriously though can there be anywhere on the globe where so many folks in an urban population of 400K, a capital city of a major jurisdiction to boot, get so in a twist and so worked up over 4,5,6-story proposals? Northern Junk of course is one those that comes immediately to mind. How many proposals have we now seen for that site???

 

The Pentagon, still the world's largest office building with nearly 7 miilion square feet and seven stories covering nearly 250 hectares, was built in less than 16 months. Here in Pokeyville by the Sea, on paltry proposals that pale into insignificance by comparison, such as NJ and this Cordova Bay site, we'll happily muck about going aimlessly in circles for 16 or more years, arguing endlessly about the addition of a single floor - without even agreeing on a friggin' design without a court challenge apparently - much less actually *build* anything, lol.

 

Note - I just re-read the part above about "worked up" and "twist" and especially "4....stories" and giggled. A lot.


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#142 Szeven

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Posted 27 July 2018 - 07:29 AM

I received this email this morning indicating they are very confident with excavation going forward soon. Very Victorian of them to open the conversation with talk about the weather  :whyme:

 

What is new at The Haro?

It’s finally starting to heat up in Cordova Bay. The sun is out and people are taking to the beach. With the increase in temperature there has been an increase in activity in the neighbourhood -  and it's about to get a lot more exciting. Presale units are going to be available for registrants a lot sooner than we thought! August should see our excavation permit going through and we should be ready to break ground. Are you excited? We sure are! 



#143 spanky123

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Posted 27 July 2018 - 07:35 AM

 

I received this email this morning indicating they are very confident with excavation going forward soon. Very Victorian of them to open the conversation with talk about the weather  :whyme:

 

What is new at The Haro?

It’s finally starting to heat up in Cordova Bay. The sun is out and people are taking to the beach. With the increase in temperature there has been an increase in activity in the neighbourhood -  and it's about to get a lot more exciting. Presale units are going to be available for registrants a lot sooner than we thought! August should see our excavation permit going through and we should be ready to break ground. Are you excited? We sure are! 

 

 

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#144 MarkoJ

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 09:22 AM

This development now has a small showroom on Oak Street (same developer as 881 Short Street). 

 

Ground floor concrete and then wood frame above.


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#145 songheesguy

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 06:20 PM

Had never heard of this project until a unit came on realtor.ca today. This project got the finishings right IMO. Heated bathroom floors, double sinks in bathrooms, gas stove and gas bbq hook ups....if only it were steel and concrete on all levels. I wonder if this building is sold out or if the unit listed is still a presale. Does anyone know what stage it is at?



#146 Szeven

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 09:52 PM

They are selling units now according to a sales email I got October 31st.

Try this link for info:

https://vip.theharo.com/

#147 MarkoJ

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 08:17 AM

Had never heard of this project until a unit came on realtor.ca today. This project got the finishings right IMO. Heated bathroom floors, double sinks in bathrooms, gas stove and gas bbq hook ups....if only it were steel and concrete on all levels. I wonder if this building is sold out or if the unit listed is still a presale. Does anyone know what stage it is at?

 

Thing is concrete is probably the biggest quality factor. Does anyone know what the difference in cost is between wood and concrete?

 

They just started sales.


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#148 Bob Fugger

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Posted 22 November 2018 - 08:36 AM

Thing is concrete is probably the biggest quality factor. Does anyone know what the difference in cost is between wood and concrete?

 

They just started sales.

 

Is this a method of Socratic inquiry or are you legitimately asking what the cost difference between wood and concrete is because you don't know?  Because if the latter, "Yikes!" for your clients!



#149 aastra

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Posted 22 November 2018 - 09:29 AM

I assumed he was getting philosophical. "Does anyone know the difference between wood and concrete?" Aspiring VV forumers should be warned: it's a one-way trip. You can never go back to how you were before.



#150 Mike K.

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Posted 22 November 2018 - 09:52 AM

At-present the face value is $75-$100 more per square foot, on average, but with the labour situation being as it is those costs can vary by quite a margin.


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#151 MarkoJ

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Posted 22 November 2018 - 04:57 PM

Sorry meant construction costs concrete vs wood.

 

But it terms of real estate sales there isn't a huge difference. In Victoria buyers pay a small premium for concrete from my personal observations; therefore, likely the reason a development is a great location like this would still be going wood-framed. They figure they can't get their money back if they go concrete.


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#152 Mike K.

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Posted 22 November 2018 - 05:05 PM

You know, it’s funny. Concrete doesn’t seem to be in vogue here for higher end product like it is elsewhere. In some markets projects of this caliber wouldn’t dare proceed as a woodframe.

The issue here could possibly be a case of not having access to sufficient framers? Concrete crews are in huge demand right now and they’re locked in to existing projects. Securing framers will come with quite a premium and that premium must be over the top.

Construction costs have risen 40% over the last 18 months.

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#153 Wayne

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 06:37 AM

https://www.timescol...nich-1.23524025

They have been working on this site for months now.

#154 tjv

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 10:01 AM

 

Sorry meant construction costs concrete vs wood.

 

That is a really difficult question to answer right now as lumber prices shot way up a year ago and basically doubled between 2016 and 2017, but are now on their way back down

 

A rough answer would be around 15-20% in a 4 storey condo project.  But its not just the actual concrete vs wood, there are additional costs for other trades such as electrical that must us BX instead of lumex because walls are steel stud vs wood, the plumber has to "can" (construction term to sleeve concrete) for their piping, etc, etc



#155 aastra

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 06:40 PM

Have we seen these large images before?

https://theharo.com/buildings/

 

https://theharo.com/...-1-gradient.jpg

https://theharo.com/...uilding-1-1.jpg

https://theharo.com/...uilding-3-1.jpg

https://theharo.com/...uilding-2-1.jpg

https://theharo.com/...PARKING-LOT.jpg



#156 Nparker

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 06:52 PM

Have we seen these large images before?...

Those look nice, but I am not sure they can compare to the ambience of the site as it is today.

Cordova Bay @ Doumac.JPG


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#157 aastra

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 07:07 PM

The views will sure be ruined once they plant all of those view-blocking trees....


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#158 Kilo95

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 12:55 PM

Those look nice, but I am not sure they can compare to the ambience of the site as it is today.

 

Not as flat as the satellite view, though not a whole lot going on other than digging and shoring up some walls for what I assume will be the parkade. 

 

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