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[G-Man]

For all those that get a twinkle in their eye when looking at the statscan site I have decided to start a Victoria Population discussion thread.

To start things off here is an interesting graph on Canadian City growth and where it comes from. It turns out that everyone is from Alberta and Ontario (or at least other canadian provinces) in Victoria.

[aastra]

It turns out that everyone is from Alberta and Ontario (or at least other canadian provinces) in Victoria.

Meaning most of Victoria's rather miniscule population growth is due to interprovincial migration?

At a glance I can't figure that chart out, so somebody please explain it to me.

Here's a good PDF showing exactly where in Victoria the population growth (and population decline) is happening. The suburbs are growing, but the sheer number of people in many of those tracts is very low to begin with, so a decent percentage doesn't necessarily translate into a lot of new people. Meanwhile, some of the suburban tracts are actually going backwards.

In the city, downtown is the only place where any notable population increase is happening.

http://www12.statcan...ps/Victoria.pdf

[Baro]

Wow, Thunder Bay's stats bring to mind the words "rats" and "sinking ship"

[Mike K.]

In the city, downtown is the only place where any notable population increase is happening.

Downtown's population may have increased faster percentage-wise but that doesn't necessarily mean it's growing by more "persons" than other areas of Victoria. It wouldn't come as a surprise if Vic West put on a similar physical population growth as did downtown since 2001 given the areas densification.

[VicHockeyFan]

It appears no one is leaving Saskatoon.

[VicHockeyFan]

Meaning most of Victoria's rather miniscule population growth is due to interprovincial migration?

At a glance I can't figure that chart out, so somebody please explain it to me.

Here's a good PDF showing exactly where in Victoria the population growth (and population decline) is happening. The suburbs are growing, but the sheer number of people in many of those tracts is very low to begin with, so a decent percentage doesn't necessarily translate into a lot of new people. Meanwhile, some of the suburban tracts are actually going backwards.

In the city, downtown is the only place where any notable population increase is happening.

http://www12.statcan...ps/Victoria.pdf

How come the population of Discovery Island and the Chatham's is increasing? No one lives there.

[Mike K.]

Animals are people, too, VHF.

[aastra]

We can assume Vic West will be dark purple when they run this report after the next census.

Unless they change the colours, of course.

So nobody can explain that first chart to me? Is it telling me that for every 8,000 or so new Victorians, about 6,000 of them are people who moved here from another province?

Or is it telling me that for every 1,000 existing Victorians, about 6 of them are people who've recently moved here from another province (so less than 2,000)?

Is the "natural increase" telling us that natural increase is actually producing a deficit in Victoria?

[Mike K.]

Sounds about right.

If I understand it correctly, of the roughly ~9,000 new Victorians, ~2000 are immigrants, ~6,000 are from other provinces and several hundred are from elsewhere in the province while our "natural increase" was a decrease of about 1,000 individuals.

[G-Man]

I believe that it is rate per thousand population and the current population is 337 000.

Our natural increase is negative 337, which means 337 more people died in victoria then were born here.

However if we have a rate of 6 per thousand as interprovincial migration that would equal an increase of 2022 people.

:confused::confused:

Though perhaps Mike is right as 9000 works out to be 2.5 % which is about our growth rate right?

[Rob Randall]

I got this e-mail from a member of the Victoria Police Department who is creating an emergency response protocol for Downtown:

I’m building a scenario for an emergency response and recovery project that has an earthquake basis to it. Could you give me some kind of estimate on how many people we have living in the downtown area in the retrofitted older buildings and what the total might be, living in what we would both consider the downtown area? Rough estimates are fine.

I guess examples might be my building The Mosaic, which has 85 suites--maybe 130 people or so. A couple of doors down above the bike shop and antique store the second storey appears to have three or four apartment units.

So does anyone have a guess? This would be excluding new construction like Astoria, Belvedere etc. Maybe 300-500 people? Plus ~1000 homeless/street people. There are no single family homes in Downtown/Harris Green.

[G-Man]

Well there is the Vogue and Monaco Lofts and then there are quite a few in around Chinatown. I would 500 at least, but perhaps a little higher. It would be a good walking excercise.

[Ms. B. Havin]

OnCanvas Art Gallery is 2nd floor live-work, with the owner living there (Carnaby Street used to be on ground floor). Might be other small examples like that...?

[Mike K.]

With the introduction of commuter transit between the south Cowichan Valley and Victoria, isn't it about time that the CRD and CVRD looked into amending the borders?

While the the metro's population is officially 350,000, in reality the population relying on Victoria for employment and amenities stretches far beyond Langford and should include upwards of 370,000 people (not including the Gulf Islands part of the CRD).

If a place like Mission (60km from downtown Vancouver) is counted as part of Metro Vancouver then communities like Malahat, Shawnigan Lake, Mill Bay, Cobble Hill, et al, should be included under Victoria's umbrella and pay taxes accordingly.

[G-Man]

Have we seen this before?

From the CRD website:

http://www.crd.bc.ca...stics_FINAL.pdf

So we now have a pop (or did in 2007) of 365 000

[Nparker]

I notice that the graphs in the above document divide the region precisely as I would under amalgamation: Core, Peninsula and West Shore. Now will somebody PLEASE make this a political reality?

BTW this is my 1000th post. Time sure does fly.

[G-Man]

Holden West used to give out prizes but we don't see much of him anymore...

[Mike K.]

The CRD's 2009 population estimate adds over 3,000 people to metro Victoria's population.

[G-Man]

Interesting. So we are most likely over 370k for the region and will be hitting about 376k by next census.

[Mike K.]

We're at 354,000 in the metro, but that's not the official census, just the CRD estimate. That also doesn't include communities that ought to be tagged into our population like Shawnigan Lake, Malahat, Mill Bay or Cobble Hill, all of which heavily rely on the CRD for employment and shopping.