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[Victoria Watcher]

I asked a marine engineer, he figured it partially houses the hydraulics for the ramp, plus overhead stuff like firefighting equipment directed towards cars

 

Now we're getting somewhere!

 

[aastra]

 

Overhead Bars is trying to displace Mike K's Blizzards at Tinto Rocks this year.

 

Jets Overhead with John Tesh would be a great double-bill at Tinto Rocks. Somebody make it happen.

[Matt R.]

They invited Gun Control to come play as well, but they couldn't get across the border.

[Victoria Watcher]

B.C. Ferries seeks better dry-dock access for repairs

The company plans to award contracts called master services agreements to more than one company starting in the second quarter of this year.

https://www.timescol...repairs-8387421

 

 

 

I propose they just dam Deas Dock.

 

 

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 03 March 2024 - 10:24 PM.

[Victoria Watcher]

B.C. Ferries cancels some Victoria-Vancouver sailings as high winds sweep Strait of Georgia


https://www.timescol...georgia-8422180

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 09 March 2024 - 01:59 PM.

[North Shore]

Yah - caught the 0900 ex Tsawwassen this morning - it was pretty lumpy.  i wondered if they were going to start cx-ing sailings.

[North Shore]

Also, a beef:

Sandwiches..”Sorry, our contract with BreadGarden has lapsed - would you like a burger instead?” Doesn’t cut it any more - you’ve been faffing around with the lapsed contract for ~ 9 months now.  It's not like the end date sprang up out of the bushes and surprised you!  Why don’t/didn’t you have a plan in place?

 

There are those of us out here who would like a soup and sandwich combo for lunch rather than a heavy meal…

[Victoria Watcher]

Over six months after it was pulled from service, the Coastal Renaissance was quietly returned to service at the beginning of March.

 

The Coastal Renaissance was taken out of service for repairs on Aug. 16, with BC Ferries first estimating it would take weeks for the repair to be complete.

 

Once it was pulled in for repairs, the scope of the issue became clearer with the company then adjusting the timeline for the return to be in October, then December, then finally in March.

 

BC Ferries tells CHEK News the Coastal Renaissance returned to service on March 4.

 

 

https://www.cheknews...ration-1195614/

[Victoria Watcher]

B.C. Ferries has decided against pursuing an insurance claim for engine problems on its three Coastal class ships and has opted instead to pay the estimated $8.5 million cost out of its contingency fund.

 

“Taking into consideration our insurance deductible and ­potential for insurance rate increases if we were to make a claim, we have now decided to fund this repair out of our contingency account, which is in place for major incidents such as this one,” Jeff Groot, B.C. Ferries spokesman, said ­Monday.

 

“When you consider all the costs related to design, freight (air/sea), the rotors themselves and the work to exchange them, installing six rotors is about $1.4 million each, or ­approximately $8.5 million total.”

 

Coastal Renaissance serves the Tsawwassen-Swartz Bay route. It returned to work on March 4 after it was sidelined on Aug. 17, 2023, and taken to Departure Bay in Nanaimo. The motor was subsequently sent to the U.S. for investigation and repair.

 

 

 

A problem discovered with the ferry’s rotor (the rotating part of an electric motor) prompted B.C. Ferries to investigate the other two Coastal vessels where they discovered similar issues.

The German-built ferries, which went into service in 2007 and 2008, were equipped with motors which vibrated and were noisy when in dock. The decision was made to turn off the motors and restart them when departing for the next sailing.

 

 

https://www.timescol...e-ships-8462369

[lanforod]

I wonder what the deductible is and at what price point they'd consider a claim. 

 

Always something I'm curious about when it comes to insurance claims at a consumer level too - car, home etc insurance.

[LJ]

Why wouldn't they approach the builder for compensation, or did they?

[max.bravo]

Just a guess (but not totally uninformed- I worked at bcf head office for 10 years, about 10 yrs ago…)

I’d guess that there’s a defined period after they take delivery when they can make warranty/defect claims to flensburger. That period has long passed.

I’d assume the “blame” is disputed and rests somewhere between the shipyard, the classification society (kinda like a 3rd party assurance organization, certifying on behalf of TC), and bc ferries.

I’m sure they approached the shipyard, who probably told them to pound sand. (This is perhaps a hidden cost to overseas shipyards - a local outfit might be more willing to create goodwill and work with BCF).

BCF’s corporate insurance is likely only possible avenue to get the repairs paid for - and given the complexity of the claim, it’s likely the insurer told them it’s not gonna be worth their while if they pursue ‘frivolous’ claims like this. ie., somebody should’ve noticed this and dealt with it earlier.

[Mike K.]

What’s the mileage? Maybe the warranty expired after 100,000km.

[vortoozo]

I would expect that BCF's decision to operate in a way that the vessel was not designed to do would limit a potential insurance claim.
Those engines were not designed to be stopped and restarted multiple times per day.

[LJ]

Just a guess (but not totally uninformed- I worked at bcf head office for 10 years, about 10 yrs ago…)

I’d guess that there’s a defined period after they take delivery when they can make warranty/defect claims to flensburger. That period has long passed.

I’d assume the “blame” is disputed and rests somewhere between the shipyard, the classification society (kinda like a 3rd party assurance organization, certifying on behalf of TC), and bc ferries.

I’m sure they approached the shipyard, who probably told them to pound sand. (This is perhaps a hidden cost to overseas shipyards - a local outfit might be more willing to create goodwill and work with BCF).

BCF’s corporate insurance is likely only possible avenue to get the repairs paid for - and given the complexity of the claim, it’s likely the insurer told them it’s not gonna be worth their while if they pursue ‘frivolous’ claims like this. ie., somebody should’ve noticed this and dealt with it earlier.

Well, I would expect that we won't be having them build any more vessels for us.

[lanforod]

I would expect that BCF's decision to operate in a way that the vessel was not designed to do would limit a potential insurance claim.
Those engines were not designed to be stopped and restarted multiple times per day.

Are you sure they stop and restart them? Every sailing I remember, I don’t think engines stop between sailings. They even use them to keep the boat against the pier I think?

[Victoria Watcher]

Are you sure they stop and restart them? Every sailing I remember, I don’t think engines stop between sailings. They even use them to keep the boat against the pier I think?

 

The article says they vibrate and make too much noise, so they do shut them down at dock.

[lanforod]

Ah. Hmm

[Mike K.]

Ferry fares are rising April 2nd. $288 now for a family of four to travel, return, to the mainland, without a reservation.

$19.10 is the base passenger fare. $67.40 for a vehicle of 20’ or less.

[Nparker]

Making life more affordable!