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[Saanich] Tuscany Village mixed-use | Built - completed in 2007


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#61 Baro

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Posted 25 August 2007 - 03:52 PM

After coming home from Prague this is one of the first things I noticed. After being in a city where even a low-middle income apartment building is more lovingly designed and artistic than anything in Victoria, I see the progress made on this "project" and I think a little part of me died....

Actually, after 20 days of being in a city little bigger than Victoria but at 1.1 million people with 3 subway lines, trams on every other street that run at least every 2-5 min, every single neighbourhood being a true mix of people and classes, happy couples with babies and dogs defying north-american wisdom about raising a familly in "the city", a single city block having everything from a sleek black glass office building, crazy 30's cubist apartment building, and a nearly 1,000 year old still-used city hall tower all living next to each other without any offending, threatening, or overshadowing each other... it's enough to almost just want to give up on North America. We really don't know what the hell we're doing over here in terms of cities.
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#62 aastra

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Posted 27 August 2007 - 09:10 AM

It's actually not difficult. We just have to stop overthinking everything and let our cities be spontaneous again. Why do the old sections of North American cities tend to be pleasant and interesting? Because they were allowed to be what they were. You didn't have anti-urban groups trying to insert gaping public spaces and suburban esthetics into urban areas.

The best parts of Victoria -- the best things about it -- would never be allowed today.

#63 Baro

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Posted 27 August 2007 - 10:28 AM

Why do the same people who harp on and on about old town and tourism and preservation fight tooth and nail against any development that contains any of the same urban elements of old town? It actually boggles my mind.
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#64 Holden West

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Posted 27 August 2007 - 10:32 AM

I guess they only like the superficial aspects but not the overall form--the gingerbread detailing etc. Look at the controversy over the municipal building in James Bay earlier this year.
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#65 ressen

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Posted 27 August 2007 - 06:38 PM







Tuscany Village in your back yard.

#66 aastra

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Posted 27 August 2007 - 06:51 PM

I think this project affords us something of a sneak peek at what Town & Country will ultimately look like.

#67 Nparker

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Posted 27 August 2007 - 07:57 PM

I think this project affords us something of a sneak peek at what Town & Country will ultimately look like.


Be afraid, be VERY afraid.

#68 m0nkyman

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Posted 27 August 2007 - 08:31 PM

Mommy, make the bad buildings go away!!!

#69 Caramia

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 11:02 AM

Poor little monky, it was just a bad dream.
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#70 hungryryno

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 02:33 PM

Does anyone know what restaurant will be replacing Milestone's?

I have heard Earl's but am hoping it will be something different! No student can afford to eat at Earl's. I had lunch at the Downtown location not too long ago, ordered a drink and a salad, and cam out $30 lighter.... too expensive and way too trandy for me now!

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Posted 03 September 2007 - 06:55 PM

For your viewing pleasure, even more Tuscany Village shots. Including shots of the beautiful Piazza sure to be on the list of must see tourist destinations while in Victoria.




















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#72 Holden West

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Posted 03 September 2007 - 07:13 PM



The fancy file roofs, which are so prominent in the renderings, are practically invisible from any angle.

They would have been far better off ditching the roof and going with a roof-top garden with a few glassed-in penthouses like the roof of the old Bay building or even the Vogue or Monaco Lofts renovations.
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#73 m0nkyman

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Posted 03 September 2007 - 07:24 PM



#74 LJ

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Posted 03 September 2007 - 07:25 PM

I will bet that it will be a great success despite all the negativity expressed here.
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#75 Rob Randall

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Posted 03 September 2007 - 07:37 PM

For your viewing pleasure, even more Tuscany Village shots. Including shots of the beautiful Piazza sure to be on the list of must see tourist destinations while in Victoria.


Every time I see that tower it reminds me of Europe. Not of Italy, because I never saw a tower there that was shaped like that but of the Dacau Concentration Camp in Germany which had many guard towers like that. It sort of weirds me out.



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#76 Nparker

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Posted 03 September 2007 - 08:03 PM

From the lastest ad campaign for the Hudson "Tuscany Village, one more reason to choose downtown - no erzatz heritage"

#77 Caramia

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Posted 03 September 2007 - 10:36 PM

I think LJ is right.
Nowadays most people die of a sort of creeping common sense, and discover when it is too late that the only things one never regrets are one's mistakes.
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#78 m0nkyman

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Posted 03 September 2007 - 10:50 PM

LJ will be right for all the same reasons that Wal-Mart is the most successful retailer on the planet. :(

#79 aastra

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Posted 04 September 2007 - 09:34 AM

I like the middle right of this pic:



The space occupied by Blockbuster also seems to be okay.

I think Victorians will probably complain about the colours but otherwise they'll love it. Which is ironic, because the colours are probably the best thing about this development.

#80 aastra

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Posted 04 September 2007 - 09:43 AM

Maybe it's not right to criticize a project like this for its faux esthetic? There are countless old apartment blocks in Victoria (and everywhere) with faux Mediterranean or even faux English themes. You could actually applaud this project for showing a decent amount of commitment to the fantasy it's trying to conjure up (even if the commitment still wasn't nearly enough and even if the level of detail is still far too low and even if the layout is far too auto-oriented).

Saanich steadfastly refuses to develop its own intrinsic character, so perhaps this is the best it will ever be able to do?

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