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[Langford] Danbrook One / RidgeView Place | 11-storeys | Rentals, commercial | Built - completed in 2019


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#301 Rob Randall

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Posted 30 July 2021 - 08:11 PM

Eno Koorbnad


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#302 Mike K.

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Posted 31 July 2021 - 06:54 AM

You mean, enO koorbnaD.


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#303 spanky123

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Posted 31 July 2021 - 08:46 AM

They're probably going to rebrand. I bet the first demo move will be taking down the sign. In the future, one neighbour will say to the other, "you know this is actually Danbrook One, right?" "WTF?!"

 

Always lots of rumours in town but one that keeps getting play about Danbrook is that the building cannot be 'repaired' and needs to come down.

 

Will see I guess. 



#304 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 31 July 2021 - 08:55 AM

if you just want to reuse as many letters from the sign as possible, the largest single word is DOORKNOB at 8 letters.

 

https://wordfinderx....?dictionary=wwf

 

BOOKEND is pretty good at 7 letters.

 

using all the letters and going two words:

 


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#305 Rob Randall

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Posted 31 July 2021 - 09:03 AM

Dark One Noob

O Naked Boron


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#306 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 31 July 2021 - 09:10 AM

what's with naming residential buildings anyway?

 

even big prestigious office buildings are often/mostly named for their address.  But I guess if your address is the tony part of Manhattan that in and of itself is prestigious.


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#307 Rob Randall

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Posted 31 July 2021 - 09:38 AM

It's a very old marketing practice. Think about the 1960s/70s apartment boom here, you had to differentiate your product so you'd come up with a theme, some Spanish-style rough stucco arches and wrought iron and call it El Diablo or something.



#308 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 31 July 2021 - 09:48 AM

I actually do not think there is El Diablo in town but there are definitely some other Spanish one and two word names where you have the exposed brick arch then mostly white stucco.

 

Danboork One's biggest issue is probably not the expense of the sign change.  But one thing they could try first is changing the sign then just open up again and get a business license.  maybe they will catch Langford napping.

 

"Danbrook One?  No don't know what you are talking about, we are O Naked Boron."


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Posted 09 November 2021 - 06:56 AM

More dirt on Danbrook One. https://www.capitald...ative-committee

 

Sounds like all of the engineer's other buildings are now going to be reviewed as well. May be a few people looking for rentals in Langford!



#310 Danma

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Posted 09 November 2021 - 01:29 PM

May be a few people looking for rentals in Langford!

 

It's already brutal for renters as it is. 



#311 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 10 November 2021 - 04:50 AM

The body found McClure did not meet the industry standard of between 45 to 55 field reviews, with only 17 in this case. Field reviews are those done at the building site, and at locations where building components are fabricated, it says. Danbrook One did not meet building code requirements, and the structural design includes many potential deficiencies, the report says.

 

No independent reviews of any part of the building’s design were done before construction of ­Danbrook One, it says.

 

In an interview with investigators, McClure said that at the time he was preparing the design, there was only one other person at the firm Sorensen Trilogy Structural Engineering Solutions, and despite knowing the reviews were necessary, they “just never happened.”

 

 

https://www.timescol...dy-says-4742408


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#312 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 10 November 2021 - 04:56 AM

More dirt on Danbrook One. https://www.capitald...ative-committee

 

Sounds like all of the engineer's other buildings are now going to be reviewed as well. May be a few people looking for rentals in Langford!

 

 

WSP reported “numerous deficiencies, errors, shortcomings and issues” specifically referencing the lateral system. Their analysis concluded the core walls in the drawings did not have the lateral durability required to withstand an earthquake. Stiff load-bearing walls were not designed to also handle seismic force, and are prone to “deformations” in an earthquake. If walls that carry transfer beams are deformed, it “could result in catastrophic failure.”

 

 

It surprises me a little bit that the general contractor (or rebar or concrete people) did not look and this and say "this doesn't really match the integrity of other similar buildings we have built.  It looks a bit off".

 

Also, this is hardly ground-breaking new design.  Can't they just grab off-the-shelf engineering plans for other similar buildings in the same earthquake zones or whatever, rather than designing from scratch?


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#313 Mike K.

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Posted 10 November 2021 - 09:45 AM

Lots of unknowns still. We haven’t heard the rationale for why things were done the way they were.

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Posted 11 November 2021 - 12:32 PM

Lots of unknowns still. We haven’t heard the rationale for why things were done the way they were.

 

I think that the obvious answer is because "they could be done that way"!



#315 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 11 November 2021 - 12:37 PM

“Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.”

#316 Mike K.

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Posted 11 November 2021 - 04:21 PM

I think that the obvious answer is because "they could be done that way"!


What is missing from the narrative still is whether third parties were lead to believe the professionals hired to do the structural engineering had the skill and authority to do what they did, or whether they were instructed to do what they did despite their lack of qualification.

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Posted 11 November 2021 - 04:40 PM

My take on this is that there is a systemic dysfunction in our permit/inspection/occupancy process.

 

If there is a professional stamp on the drawings, then someone is responsible even if the drawings, specifications and as-builts are inaccurate, incorrect or just plain wrong. 

 

Once a buiding professional has written letters of assurance and issued the required schedules B and C, the building is granted occupancy.

 

Building, Fire, Electrical and Plumbing Inspectors are not looking for code compliance. 

 

They are looking for a piece of paper from the engineer that designed it, oversaw the installation of it and then issued his/her approval of it.  

 

There is a conflict of interest from the day the surveyor hammers in the first peg.


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#318 Dexter

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Posted 11 November 2021 - 05:07 PM

Hmmm we have used Sorensen Trilogy on a few of our projects. Hopefully they don’t undergo review….

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Posted 11 November 2021 - 05:57 PM

My take on this is that there is a systemic dysfunction in our permit/inspection/occupancy process.

 

 

I am no expert by any means but it sounds strange to me that a building can be designed and built without an architect and with a single engineer signing off on their own work and everyone thinks that is ok.



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Posted 11 November 2021 - 06:29 PM

Langford is known for smooth sailing on the permit process. There must have been an architect on record. As the coordinating professional, it’s up to them to ensure everything is properly reviewed.

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