563 replies to this topic

[tjv]

Tread carefully here. The CBC has an extreme bias on this issue and their coverage of pipeline-related news is driven by an agenda. Note that they cite a five-year-old study to supplant their narrative, and the individuals they quote further support the author's angle. A balanced news piece would have had someone opine on the matter from the opposite side of the aisle.

The same could be said for EVERY news article out there

 

Whatever the case may be, a game of 'fact-check' is rubbish when it's a one-sided spin piece.

 

Well no kidding, Sherlock. Thank you for making that shocking revelation, CBC, that BC can't utilize the full capacity offered by the pipeline and 80% will contain export product.

 

So what's next in line? A big news piece blocking all of that prairie grain earmarked for export because BC can't eat it all, and therefore the supply should be greatly curtailed? Geez Louise.

You are taking a snippet of the article.  it was said that the pipeline will bring lower gas prices.  You have provided nothing that will support that.  Yes the additional capacity will be exported, so how will this pipeline lower BC gas prices?

 

And also, is he planning to give a home with equity to everyone who doesn't have one?

It just proves that Weaver is another clown with no sense of reality.  The more he talks the more he looks like an idiot.  I'd like someone to ask him how someone who is living pay cheque to pay cheque and drives a $4000 beater how they are going to afford an electric car

[Benezet]

With all due respect, that wouldn’t change anything...

What it would change is your credibility. Sorry for saying so.

[Mike K.]

The same could be said for EVERY news article out there

You are taking a snippet of the article. it was said that the pipeline will bring lower gas prices. You have provided nothing that will support that. Yes the additional capacity will be exported, so how will this pipeline lower BC gas prices?

As per the article, only 80% of the capacity is committed.

20% of the capacity remains uncommitted.

It is unreasonable to assume that the jurisdiction providing the point of export for the oil will be forced to contend with an under supply of refined product, despite taking on the majority of the risk associated with the pipeline expansion and shipping. That 20% provides sufficient wriggle room for BC to mandate more domestic supply, and we’ll get it. In fact, today’s high gas prices are working in favour of the bargaining process for Alberta, where additional supply heralded as a buffer from rising oil prices in BC will eventually win over public sentiment, and Horgan will agree that lower energy costs are good for the economy.

[rjag]

The same could be said for EVERY news article out there

 

You are taking a snippet of the article.  it was said that the pipeline will bring lower gas prices.  You have provided nothing that will support that.  Yes the additional capacity will be exported, so how will this pipeline lower BC gas prices?

 

It just proves that Weaver is another clown with no sense of reality.  The more he talks the more he looks like an idiot.  I'd like someone to ask him how someone who is living pay cheque to pay cheque and drives a $4000 beater how they are going to afford an electric car

 

https://achemistinla...ntain-pipeline/

 

 

A primer on the BC refined fuel market, lower mainland gasoline prices and how they can be affected by a change in mix in the Trans Mountain Pipeline

 

 

[Mike K.]

Never let a few facts get in the way of a good fact-check, eh?

That was a fun read. A little dry, but informative.

[sdwright.vic]

With all due respect, that wouldn’t change anything.

Be the change you want to be and show your work to support your stance.

[Victoria Watcher]

coyne’s article today was pretty funny.



https://nationalpost...was-that-simple

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 02 May 2019 - 04:57 PM.

[rjag]

Never let a few facts get in the way of a good fact-check, eh?

That was a fun read. A little dry, but informative.

 

Blair writes some great stuff and looks through the fog of misinformation and fearmongering and presents something that lots of anti-oil folks and politicians seem to lack these days....facts.

[vortoozo]

Another article published today titled "Pipeline expansion may not lower [BC] gas prices", from today's Globe & Mail.

It's behind a paywall, unless you subscribe: https://www.theglobe...-bc-gas-prices/

[Victoria Watcher]

this thread title needs an update.

[Mike K.]

Big Gas... say it fast, lol.

https://youtu.be/XYHidc4Dxs0

This is a great video/advert from the Independant Contractors and Businesses Association.

[Victoria Watcher]

this thread title needs an update.

 

still

[Mike K.]

What should we rename it to?

[Sparky]

How about “ The Pipe Has Nothing To Do With Domestic Pricing “

[DustMagnet]

Just drop the political parties from the title and it'll be good to go.

 

"We have always been at war with Eurasia Eastasia Alberta."

Edited by DustMagnet, 08 May 2019 - 09:35 PM.

[Victoria Watcher]

alberta ndp is no longer in so drop that part at least.

[Mike K.]

Alberta will ditch the NDP’s $30/tonne carbon tax on May 30th.

Ottawa will try to implement the federal equivalent but it’s unlikely to materialize ahead of the federal election.

The tax equates to about 6 cents per litre of gasoline. You can currently buy gas in Edmonton/Calgary for about $1.12.

[RFS]

The British Columbia Court of Appeal says the province cannot restrict oil shipments through its borders, in a decision that marks a win for the future of the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion

https://nationalpost...obox=1558716805

[jonny]

A unanimous, crushing, embarrassing, resounding defeat for Horgan & Co. 

[spanky123]

A unanimous, crushing, embarrassing, resounding defeat for Horgan & Co. 

 

So no doubt it will be appealed to the supreme court.