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[Victoria] Grace Lore | 2018 council candidate


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#1 Mike K.

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 01:04 PM

Victoria resident Grace Lore will be announcing her candidacy for council this weekend at Fernwood Square. Lore’s primary platform messaging is “making space for young families in Victoria.”
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#2 gstc84

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 01:21 PM

Website: https://gracelore.ca/


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#3 Casual Kev

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 06:10 PM

Love her intentions; the lack of choices between 2-bed apartments and detached SFH's is staggering. But I don't see much of a concrete platform sadly. She's basically saying she will do her homework once she's in council. .

 

EDIT: On the topic of 3+ bed condos though, I'm genuinely interested in listening on opinions regarding "family condo" projects in residential neighborhoods. Say, a mid-rise where each unit is at least 1,000 sqft with utilitarian floor plans to maximize space use while having amenities like playgrounds, running space, rooms that can be used as daycares/extracurriculars, etc. rather than gyms and concierges.

 

I know that liquidity is a big reason why conventional 3-beds rarely get built (why have an unit in the market for months when you can split it into studios/1-beds and sell way faster) but if there were covenants imposing a minimum unit size/bedroom count plus children-oriented amenities... and developers would have a hard time building anything else in a given lot... would they take up on the offer and deliver something not too expensive, or would too many barriers still exist without governments pitching in with big money?


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 06:21 PM

Baffles me that someone would go to the effort of launching a campaign while leaving a social media trail that makes Helps look like she is far right on SJW issues.

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:02 PM

It is victoria that’s who gets elected here.
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Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:19 PM

Baffles me that someone would go to the effort of launching a campaign while leaving a social media trail that makes Helps look like she is far right on SJW issues.

 

The top voting candidate in 2014 is a self-described socialist. I cannot understand why people keep saying things like this when the electorate has clearly shown who they want in as councillors.


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#7 Mike K.

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:21 PM

Corey’s got a point. The CoV votes in who they vote in, and I don’t think they do so blindly.

Amalgamation might not work out in Victoria’s favour if this is the type of candidate the electorate wants in power.
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Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:27 PM

Corey’s got a point. The CoV votes in who they vote in, and I don’t think they do so blindly.

Amalgamation might not work out in Victoria’s favour if this is the type of candidate the electorate wants in power.


Absolutely, and vice versa. I’m sure Saanichites are terrified of having Isitt in charge of Saanich or having to contribute to solving downtown’s issues. I seriously doubt a Saanich victoria amalgamation would be successful from my muni’s votes.
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Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:30 PM

Absolutely, and vice versa. I’m sure Saanichites are terrified of having Isitt in charge of Saanich or having to contribute to solving downtown’s issues. I seriously doubt a Saanich victoria amalgamation would be successful from my muni’s votes.

Certainly. I think Saanich in general is fairly balanced. Add the CoV to the mix and the pendulum will swing firmly left.

 

I'm in favour of amalgamation all the same, I just hope that Oak Bay joins at the same time to balance that out.


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#10 Casual Kev

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:46 PM

I think I'm going to play the role of the asshole mainlander and point out that Andrew Weaver's riding straddles Oak Bay and Gordon Head :lol:

 

You'd have to do some seriously creative gerrymandering to carve out an CRD jurisdiction that doesn't lean progressive/feminist. 


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#11 jonny

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:52 PM

Grace sounds exactly like the type of candidate who would swoop in to a large victory in Victoria.

Living in Saanich now, I'm not so sure I'm so pro amalgamation anymore...
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#12 spanky123

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:57 PM

Corey’s got a point. The CoV votes in who they vote in, and I don’t think they do so blindly.

Amalgamation might not work out in Victoria’s favour if this is the type of candidate the electorate wants in power.

 

You are absolutely right. The people who sit home and let others decide their fate have nobody else to blame.

 

I just wish we had a candidate that focused on clean streets, reducing crime, picking up garbage and making sure that the infrastructure worked. Instead it seems like everyone thinks that they have to solve the world's perceived injustices from their seat on City council. 

 

The concern I would have voting for someone like Grace is she really going to represent the issues and people she claims or are we going to be spending our time debating topics like this:

https://www.feminist...nel-discussion/


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#13 jonny

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 08:09 PM

I think I'm going to play the role of the asshole mainlander and point out that Andrew Weaver's riding straddles Oak Bay and Gordon Head :lol:

You'd have to do some seriously creative gerrymandering to carve out an CRD jurisdiction that doesn't lean progressive/feminist.


It wasn't that long ago Weaver and May's ridings were held by Conservatives and BC Liberals.

Politics can be weird sometimes.
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Posted 14 June 2018 - 08:15 PM

It wasn't that long ago Weaver and May's ridings were held by Conservatives and BC Liberals.

Politics can be weird sometimes.


Pure speculation, but I suspect many people were "trying out" the greens, and after weaver's ndp deal may go back to their old parties

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 08:17 PM

Pure speculation, but I suspect many people were "trying out" the greens, and after weaver's ndp deal may go back to their old parties

 

Agreed. I think that many people who wanted Christy out felt that the Greens would be a less crazy version of the NDP.  They have realized that they were wrong.


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 08:34 PM

Pure speculation, but I suspect many people were "trying out" the greens, and after weaver's ndp deal may go back to their old parties


We're pretty unique in that we have the leader of both the federal and provincial Green parties and all of the money and volunteers that comes with.

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 08:36 PM

It wasn't that long ago Weaver and May's ridings were held by Conservatives and BC Liberals.

Politics can be weird sometimes.

 

The BC Libs didn't even hit 30% there in the past two elections and needed NDP/Green vote splitting further back. And heck, they are only barely small-c conservatives to begin with. 

But overall, I do get spanky's point about differing priorities at the municipal level. People don't always behave according to their ideology when they can see more clearly how politics affects them. (See: Progressive icon Margaret Atwood going full NIMBY against a bloody daycare in a central neighborhood)


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Posted 15 June 2018 - 06:40 AM

I’ve had the pleasure of meeting with Grace on several occasions to hear why she is running for Council and the change she hopes to represent. I think if you were to engage with her, you would find an extremely balanced view that would that would be a huge asset to this City.
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#19 RFS

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 07:00 AM

I’ve had the pleasure of meeting with Grace on several occasions to hear why she is running for Council and the change she hopes to represent. I think if you were to engage with her, you would find an extremely balanced view that would that would be a huge asset to this City.

 

She has kids and that automatically gives her points in my book.  Politicians should have skin in the game so to speak


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Posted 15 June 2018 - 07:33 AM

I’ve had the pleasure of meeting with Grace on several occasions to hear why she is running for Council and the change she hopes to represent. I think if you were to engage with her, you would find an extremely balanced view that would that would be a huge asset to this City.

 

Why doesn't she have any hint of fiscal prudence on her website? The most oblique way I can figure out that there is fiscal responsibility there is that she wants to streamline development process, which is fiscally smart in general.

 

The number one issue for every single voter is their pocketbook. It will always boil down to that. No fiscal issues in the city, people don't worry about it. People are worried about it right now - big bill for the bridge, potential big bill for a pool most don't use, high spending on bike lanes etc. People are worried about it.


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