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[lanforod]

Expensive but probably should be done soon.

[dasmo]

Not in Clown World. I would expect a bike lane first.

 

Guilbeault: What — what — what I have said is that the solutions to our transport challenge pass by many different things, including massive investment in public transit, including investment in electrification of transportation, and of course, we are funding roads. We have — we have programs to fund roads. What we have said, and maybe I should have been more specific in — in the past, is that we — we don’t have funds for large projects like the Troisième Lien that the CAQ has been trying to do for — for many years.

Reporter: You specifically said “our government has made the decision” —

“Our government has made the decision to stop investing in road infrastructure.”

Guilbeault: I said — I said — I just told you that I should have been more specific in — in — in that statement, and — and specified that it was project (sic) like the Troisième Lien, which myself and many of my colleagues have said many times that the federal government had no funds for a project like this, and you can look back and you — you will — you will find numerous statements by myself and many other cabinet colleagues on — on — on this specifically.

 

https://nationalpost...ew-roads-policy

[max.bravo]

When I worked at MOTI they were openly saying the same thing: less roads, more “active transportation” infrastructure.

When i asked why, they said to reduce carbon emissions. When I asked won’t the mandated EV shift take care of that? They didn’t have an answer.

It’s dogma.

[Victoria Watcher]

Yup.

[Nparker]

...the federal government had no funds for a project like this...

But the federal government had funds for this:

...Auditor General Karen Hogan's scathing report on ArriveCan estimated the overall cost of the application to be $59.5-million, but said the exact cost could not be determined due poor record keeping at the CBSA...

https://www.hilltime...ing at the CBSA.

 

[Matt R.]

[Victoria Watcher]

lol.

[Matt R.]

It’s the same thing when people move here, “why’s the ferry so busy”.

Because you are on it.

[Nparker]

How long must one reside someplace before it's OK to complain about the newcomers who have arrived and spoiled it all?

[Matt R.]

10 years min. Here, you aren’t a local until one of your kids marries a local.

[Nparker]

Does 46 years in Victoria make me a local since I have no children to marry off?

[Matt R.]

Lord no.  Get a grip!

[dasmo]

This is how I visualize Matt's shop... 

 

https://youtu.be/meF...6Ult8Q-EGZwiTj8

[Matt R.]

Way way more booze.

[lanforod]

Matt's place is great. I've been there every time I've been to SSI!

[Sparky]

I think Matt's store looks more like this one. This shot was taken in the southern US while on a recent road trip.

 

[Mike K.]

Where would you put the alternate road into sooke, Mike?

Nobody is expecting an alternate road, just to be realistic about it. But some basic turning lanes would be nice. Maybe another passing lane in the 8km between the new four-lane and Sooke’s core.

[Mike K.]

It’s the same thing when people move here, “why’s the ferry so busy”.

Because you are on it.

Isn’t it because the ferry system is stuck in the 1960s?

If the world operated in the 20th century like it does in the 21st, your restaurant wouldn’t have running water, and your store wouldn’t have electricity, but you’d have an amazing oceanfront promenade at the ferry terminal to look at.

[Matt R.]

What are you talking about. I’m on fill mostly, there would be nothing to see. We have a 1” pipe to the lake up the road, operate with a septic system and can’t plug in another toaster without something blowing up.

Its basically the 1960’s still, only thing that’s improved much is the ferry system itself!

But you are right, 10m setback means my building doesn’t exist.

[max.bravo]

Not sure if I'm making the same point as Mike here, but if the Fulford ferry didn't already exist, there's no chance it would be created today. 

 

When's the last time the province paid for a new ferry route? duke point - tsawwassen was 1991.

 

The coquihalla was completed in 1986. 

 

It seems like at some point in the last 30 years we decided to stop building any new infrastructure, anywhere in BC.

 

Existing highways get upgrades, I guess the skytrain has been extended, but when was the last new route/highway/ferry created?

 

I've made this point before, but the Ogden point breakwater would never be built today (too much disruption to the sea floor). Neither would the Malahat (a highway through a provincial park beside a river!?). I wonder have we fully embraced the death-cult environmentalist idea that humans are a cancer on the planet, and we're not allowed to build any great new infrastructure? 

 

Cuz the Bible says we were created to have dominion over the earth. To rule it. And I think most people feel that innately...