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#121 StreetLevel

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Posted 12 November 2018 - 01:40 PM

That view doesn't seem so unreasonable when you consider World War I was a essentially a family dispute among Queen Victoria's useless grandsons and cousins.


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#122 DavidL

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Posted 12 November 2018 - 08:07 PM

That view doesn't seem so unreasonable when you consider World War I was a essentially a family dispute among Queen Victoria's useless grandsons and cousins.

 

Good day to choose to be glib.  Golf clap.


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#123 tedward

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Posted 13 November 2018 - 10:39 AM

I find this sentiment distasteful.  Turning what is an act of remembrance and an acknowledgment of sacrifice into an opportunity to promote a political agenda shows a disconnection with what I believe to be core Canadian values.  Bow your head, say thank you and recognize that in some part your very ability to say the things you want to say exist due to the sacrifice of so many.  Save the politics for tomorrow.

 

Wow, you really missed the whole point. This sort of thing is why the "white poppy" nutjobs have gained traction. One of them approached me at the Legislature and said, "Would you like a poppy for peace?" and I replied, "That's what the red poppy means." Because I was with my kids I didn't add what I was thinking which was, "... you ignorant ****."

The whole point of Remembrance day, as created by those veterans who came home is: Never Again. We are asked to never forget what happened so it doesn't happen again. The whole thing is political. The whole point is to stop war. Standing at a cenotaph on November 11 is a political act in support of peace.

 


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#124 DavidL

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Posted 13 November 2018 - 06:17 PM

Wow, you really missed the whole point. This sort of thing is why the "white poppy" nutjobs have gained traction. One of them approached me at the Legislature and said, "Would you like a poppy for peace?" and I replied, "That's what the red poppy means." Because I was with my kids I didn't add what I was thinking which was, "... you ignorant ****."

The whole point of Remembrance day, as created by those veterans who came home is: Never Again. We are asked to never forget what happened so it doesn't happen again. The whole thing is political. The whole point is to stop war. Standing at a cenotaph on November 11 is a political act in support of peace.

 

I'm not sure what it is we're disagreeing about, as your point makes no sense with respect to my position on the subject. And frankly I'm not that interested.  Apologies for thread hijack.



#125 spanky123

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Posted 14 November 2018 - 07:27 AM

It’s the “fair distribution of resources” that resonates with me.

Again my definition of a socialist is someone who’s got nothing and wants to share it with everyone.

 

And keep what others have for themselves.



#126 rjag

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Posted 14 November 2018 - 08:03 AM

It’s the “fair distribution of resources” that resonates with me.

Again my definition of a socialist is someone who’s got nothing and wants to share it with everyone.

 

As Uncle Winston put it....

 

 

“Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.” —Perth, Scotland, 28 May 1948, in Churchill, Europe Unite: Speeches 1947 & 1948 (London: Cassell, 1950), 347.

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“The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” —House of Commons, 22 October 1945.


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#127 spanky123

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 05:49 PM

Lisa Helps spent a massive $110K on the fall election. https://contribution...d/100134905.pdf  The $110K was nearly double the election spending limit although the filings claim that about half of the spend was prior to the campaign start.

 

Stephen Hammond spent just over $4K. MG spent just over $31K and received what appear to be several donations over the contribution limit. https://contributions.electionsbc.gov.bc.ca/pcs/lepublished/100136043.pdf

 

In Saanich Haynes outspent Atwell $70K to $40K.


Edited by spanky123, 08 February 2019 - 05:55 PM.

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#128 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 06:13 PM

looks like hammond had all of 10 contributors.  


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 08 February 2019 - 06:13 PM.


#129 spanky123

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 06:21 PM

I don't see how Helps can claim signage was an expense incurred prior to the campaign period when the signs can only be displayed during that period. She also shows expenditures of about $20K more than she raised. 



#130 Rob Randall

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 06:51 PM

^Yeah, but you want to get your signs designed, printed and delivered before the deadline to put them up. 

 

And yes, it's a handy way to get one of your big expenses out of the way before the campaign rules kick in. 


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#131 Rob Randall

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 06:58 PM

Hey, what's with these redactions?

 

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#132 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 07:00 PM

they look like payments to her campaign advisor.

#133 spanky123

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 07:03 PM

^Yeah, but you want to get your signs designed, printed and delivered before the deadline to put them up.

And yes, it's a handy way to get one of your big expenses out of the way before the campaign rules kick in.

 

Just noticed that signs actually get reported in both periods even if there is only one expense.


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#134 Rob Randall

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 09:22 AM

This is from Geoghegan's form. I completely understand redacting addresses and phone numbers but this I don't understand.There may be a legitimate reason for blacking out an entire line but even the date is a secret the public shouldn't know? Unless it's just a correction (donor listed in the wrong column).

 

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#135 gstc84

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 10:51 AM

Only contributors of $100 or more are to be disclosed. My guess is he reported a contribution of less than that amount. If it was just a correction, it would have just been crossed out rather than fully redacted.
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#136 rjag

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 11:40 AM

so good to see the Mayor used Capitalism to advance her anti-capitalist agenda.....


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#137 rjag

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 11:47 AM

Interesting looking at the list of donors for Helps, lots of developers and a couple of investment folks. Kind of surprising or maybe not



#138 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 11:58 AM

Interesting looking at the list of donors for Helps, lots of developers and a couple of investment folks. Kind of surprising or maybe not

 

and lots more than just a few that work for publicly funded social service agencies.


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#139 rmpeers

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 12:10 PM

So she is essentially the big-money candidate, paid to ensure the development and poverty industries continue to thrive?
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#140 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 12:12 PM

newcouncil.ca raised $58k.

 

https://contribution...d/100135108.pdf

 

some developers in there and some downtown business owners.


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