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[Nparker]

"In quarter four, Council directed staff to move forward on a number of climate actions in 2017, including creating a process and format for citizen-led Climate Ambassadors to provide input and inform development of the City’s climate leadership plan, and to take climate and sustainability action out into the community"

-2016 Operational Report

 

It's been around in theory for awhile but truly no less terrifying.

https://en.wikipedia...ki/Hitler_Youth

[A Girl is No one]

Speaking of the city and it’s climate leadership... I don’t think this article has been brought up yet...

it’s another gem from David Broadland (thanks for your work David, if you’re reading this!).

How the city is fixing stats to fit their climate agenda. Geez....

https://www.focusonv...sions-count-r8/

[sukika]

Does the city council receive a lunch break in addition to the catered lunches? And is this for every time they have day meetings? 

 

When I worked for the provincial government, catering was only ordered for meetings with working lunches and they were few and far between.  All of my meetings were during the day too.  I'm wondering who these other government bodies are that offer the same as what the Council members are receiving because I'd like to go work for them 

[mbjj]

Love Stephen Hammond's editorial in the Times Colonist today! hahaha, Loopeyville indeed!

[VIResident]

Does the city council receive a lunch break in addition to the catered lunches? And is this for every time they have day meetings? 

 

When I worked for the provincial government, catering was only ordered for meetings with working lunches and they were few and far between.  All of my meetings were during the day too.  I'm wondering who these other government bodies are that offer the same as what the Council members are receiving because I'd like to go work for them 

 

"........they have stressful jobs and don’t make a lot of money...."

(they don't make anywhere near what a provincial employee makes)

[Victoria Watcher]

 

"........they have stressful jobs and don’t make a lot of money...."

(they don't make anywhere near what a provincial employee makes)

 

 

ya.  provincial employees are for the most part expected to work 35 or 37.5 or whatever hours.  and most of them do it in a controlled setting.  ie. they must attend the workplace for x hours per day.   

 

city councillors can work as many hours as they like where they like and all they are asked is to know the material and then show up to most meetings.  they can even skip some if they want.  they can take vacations and days off whenever they want.  

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 18 January 2020 - 03:53 PM.

[Nparker]

It would be interesting to know which members of Council were forced against their will to take the job, and/or which ones were completely unaware of the remuneration the job pays before running for office.

[spanky123]

Love Stephen Hammond's editorial in the Times Colonist today! hahaha, Loopeyville indeed!

 

I think that the practical answer is that we all know that 1 vote isn't going to change anything on council. If we want a change it is going to have to be in 2.5 years.

[rmpeers]

I think that the practical answer is that we all know that 1 vote isn't going to change anything on council. If we want a change it is going to have to be in 2.5 years.

True but it would be nice to have someone on council call out the antics of Loveday, Isitt, Helps etc. Maybe more voters would pay attention. I mean, free lunches??

[Tom Braybrook]

https://en.wikipedia...ki/Hitler_Youth

...i'm just saying...

 

https://www.history....kids-into-nazis

Edited by tommy, 18 January 2020 - 05:56 PM.

[LJ]

"....in keeping with Indigenous traditions."  Using First Nations traditions to prop up their argument for a free lunch is insensitive and offensive.  Just wow.  

I'm OK with it as long as they are eating bannock and pemmican.

[Nparker]

I'm OK with it as long as they are eating bannock and pemmican.

That they made themselves.

[Awaiting Juno]

That they made themselves.

 

If they really want to model conditions of the provincial government, their lunches could be potluck style with each person contributing a dish, oh and not being compensated for doing so.  I recall that was more in line with how staff lunches were handled when I worked with the province.  (Catered lunches were few and far between, typically only occurring for "working lunches" or specific conferences, in which case you forewent the associated per diem if you were travelling for the conference - again few and far between) 

[Rob Randall]

^That policy would likely be fine-tuned to the venue. Some offices have limited access to restaurants. City Hall has probably the most dining options nearby. But tricky if you only have a half hour.

[Mike K.]

Since council has admitted $10k isn't enough to cover the expenses, what's our guess going to be? $15,000, or thereabouts?

 

My questions are who decides which businesses are retained to provide the catering services, and how much is allocated per business, and whether there is a roving list of businesses that are asked to provide food?

[Nparker]

...City Hall has probably the most dining options nearby. But tricky if you only have a half hour.

If there were only some method whereby one could call ahead and pre-order one's lunch.

[Rob Randall]

If there were only some method whereby one could call ahead and pre-order one's lunch.

 

Elucidate for me, sir, what you mean by "call ahead"--do you infer that one use a grand megaphone or such device to amplify one's voice?

[Victoria Watcher]

in bigger cities they have specific "pick-up" apps.  like delivery apps but just for pick-ups.

 

like https://www.ritual.co/

[Bernard]

The question that needs to be asked is why the City of Victoria council has so many hours of meetings when other municipalities of the same population (and larger) meet for a lot fewer hours per week?   I think it is a case of council finding things to fill the time with.   

[spanky123]

^ 180 priorities and 500+ motions a year take time.