Yeah, that’s tough. Staff are ultimately the executors of council’s wishes so it’s their performance that would drive council’s performance.
so the pay of the boss is tied to overall performance of the entity. that’s how it works in the real world.
Posted 12 November 2019 - 04:09 AM
Yeah, that’s tough. Staff are ultimately the executors of council’s wishes so it’s their performance that would drive council’s performance.
Posted 12 November 2019 - 07:42 AM
also any raises should be voted to take effect after the next election etc
Posted 12 November 2019 - 07:59 AM
A mayor/council raise goes into effect in the following term. to avoid the appearance of voting themselves a raise.
Tying salary to performance means politicians would abandon long-term projects that don't offer immediate benefits. They'll just spend their term chasing small projects they can call "wins".
Posted 12 November 2019 - 08:01 AM
so the pay of the boss is tied to overall performance of the entity. that’s how it works in the real world.
See, in the business world the boss sets the agenda, the employees follow it through. In politics, the mayor and council both set the agenda and follow through so there is more incentive to avoid unpopular projects with little political payoff.
Posted 12 November 2019 - 08:11 AM
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Posted 12 November 2019 - 10:20 AM
Edited by rmpeers, 12 November 2019 - 10:21 AM.
Posted 12 November 2019 - 10:22 AM
Are we sure the raise will apply in November of 2022 and not before then? They’ll be voting for this barely a year into their new term, with three more years to go.
perhaps via a referendum question on the by-election ballot?
Posted 12 November 2019 - 11:53 AM
If it were my way, council remuneration would be tied to years served.
So you would reward and encourage people to serve multiple terms? That surprises me.
I'd rather see politicians paid the median income of those they represent.
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Posted 12 November 2019 - 11:59 AM
So you would reward and encourage people to serve multiple terms? That surprises me.
I'd rather see politicians paid the median income of those they represent.
Posted 12 November 2019 - 01:21 PM
So you would reward and encourage people to serve multiple terms? That surprises me.
I'd rather see politicians paid the median income of those they represent.
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Posted 12 November 2019 - 03:48 PM
Thanks for the link! Just did the survey, though they probably won't like much of what I had to say.
Posted 12 November 2019 - 04:20 PM
Case in point. Here is the first question from the survey. Many people would say that clean streets, safety and security or responsible taxation should be priorities but of course none of those are represented and you have no ability to add any choices. Staff simply decide what you can select and ignore anything that they don't want feedback on.
6. Please rank the Strategic Objectives from most to least important.
Edited by spanky123, 12 November 2019 - 04:21 PM.
Posted 12 November 2019 - 11:30 PM
Case in point. Here is the first question from the survey. Many people would say that clean streets, safety and security or responsible taxation should be priorities but of course none of those are represented and you have no ability to add any choices. Staff simply decide what you can select and ignore anything that they don't want feedback on.
6. Please rank the Strategic Objectives from most to least important.
Good GovernanceReconciliation and Indigenous RelationsAffordable HousingProsperity and Economic InclusionHealth, Well-being and a Welcoming CityClimate Leadership and Environmental StewardshipSustainable TransportationStrong, Livable Neighbourhoods
Yeah, this question bugged me also. Obviously "Good Governance" is #1 but after that? Not much to choose when one reads between the lines.
Where's "Transportation Efficiency" as an option?
Where's "Road, Infrastructure, and Civic Maintenance and Upkeep"?
Does upvoting "Strong, Livable Neighbourhoods" mean one is just supporting NIMBYism?
Does upvoting "Sustainable Transportation" mean nothing but support for more bike lanes?
And, above all, what happened to "Amalgamation"?
Posted 13 November 2019 - 06:33 AM
It's not a survey of what YOU think is important.
It's a survey of what YOU think is most important among the things THEY think are most important.
Is there still only the one formally declared candidate?
Edited by Rob Randall, 13 November 2019 - 06:35 AM.
Posted 13 November 2019 - 07:07 AM
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Posted 13 November 2019 - 07:10 AM
i don't think the pool will go to referendum this soon. unless there is lots of background going on right now.
Posted 13 November 2019 - 07:11 AM
Posted 13 November 2019 - 07:11 AM
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Posted 13 November 2019 - 07:16 AM
There’s no better time to assess the sentiment of the community. There doesn’t have to be a concrete plan, just a general question.
i don't think so. what question would they ask now?
it won't be "do you want a new pool". we are well beyond that.
they will be afraid to ask where is should be.
i'm really not sure what question would make any sense for this coming by-election.
Posted 13 November 2019 - 07:27 AM
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