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2020 City of Victoria By-Election | December 12, 2020


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#1721 gstc84

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 01:57 PM

The Victoria Chamber of Commerce posted short Q&As with the by-election candidates about their top 3 priorities and how they will support Victoria businesses. Eight candidates responded, answers can be found here.

 

I think Hardman provided the best answers, but I will not vote for TV in this byelection.

 

 

The most bizarre take is Bill Heflin's response that city council "should get out of the zoning business". That's one of the core functions of a city council!


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#1722 Rob Randall

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 02:12 PM

The most bizarre take is Bill Heflin's response that city council "should get out of the zoning business". That's one of the core functions of a city council!

 

That's good news for my Government Street slaughterhouse/tannery/tasting room proposal.


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#1723 JohnsonStBridge

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 03:05 PM

The Victoria Chamber of Commerce posted short Q&As with the by-election candidates about their top 3 priorities and how they will support Victoria businesses. Eight candidates responded, answers can be found here.

 

I think Hardman provided the best answers, but I will not vote for TV in this byelection.

 

 

The most bizarre take is Bill Heflin's response that city council "should get out of the zoning business". That's one of the core functions of a city council!

 

His suggestion that water will need to be rationed due to the density of development approved by council was a close second.



#1724 TwilightZoneVictoria

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 03:16 PM

Gotta laugh at all the comments on Facebook saying that it's not democracy that there are "so many signs" and saying that they shouldn't be in places where they're legal to be. So obvious to everyone, except for them, that those people are saying really undemocratic things. 

 

Then again there's the people posting about rounding up everyone who's camping and lock them in jail and that's illegal too. 

 

Feels like the gloves are off in this city and the division is only growing.



#1725 Rob Randall

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 03:31 PM

His suggestion that water will need to be rationed due to the density of development approved by council was a close second.

 

That one actually has a grain of truth to it. Back it 2007 I noted how the 837 Johnson condo had to build sewage holding tanks due to high density and insufficient infrastructure.


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#1726 JohnsonStBridge

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 06:11 PM

Fair point. That said sewage, storm drains, and water infrastructure are the City's top 3 capital budget items so its not like the infrastructure needs aren't being looked at or to the point that we have to limit the number of showers we take a week. Actually come to think of it maybe the whole water rationing is why the showers got hauled out of Beacon Hill Park. Bill was on to something after all! 


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#1727 Mike K.

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 06:21 PM

Did he specifically say water had to be rationed or sewage outflows curtailed/limited? Those are two wildly different things.

Quite frankly I’m tired of the water rationing rhetoric. We live in a rain forest, for gosh sake. The only obstacle to water supply is politics.
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#1728 JohnsonStBridge

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 06:28 PM

 

 

With a far higher density than we have ever had before, no provision has been made for infrastructure to support these higher densities. Water is going to be rationed again! 


#1729 Mike K.

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 06:31 PM

The provisions are up to CRD directions, of which the CoV has three. Calling for moratoriums or limits speaks to a lack of effort.

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#1730 Nparker

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 06:40 PM

...Quite frankly I’m tired of the water rationing rhetoric. We live in a rain forest, for gosh sake. The only obstacle to water supply is politics.

Precisely.

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#1731 Mike K.

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 06:45 PM

Oh it’s crazy. There’s so much water here and we have to ration the stuff like as though we live in the UAE. Unbelievable.

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#1732 Rob Randall

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 06:45 PM

It's not even close to my favourite anti-highrise argument by Fortin/Chandler many years ago: that we can't build highrises Downtown because when the energy crisis hits we won't have energy to make the elevators go to the top. I'm not kidding.


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#1733 Mike K.

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 06:49 PM

That’s what happens when you believe in the alarmism that made rational adults believe to the core of their being that peak oil was just years away, and societal collapse would follow.

They also feared for the lives of those who chose to move to the then newborn Bear Mountain, as the energy to sustain life on a mountain, they feared, would be so great as to create ghettos in the place of million dollar mansions as the affluent would live on flat land where access to services would be maintained.

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#1734 tommy

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 07:33 PM

Well we know who's running....when do the predictions start! I am all agog...waiting with bated breath...on the edge of my seat...



#1735 Sparky

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 09:47 PM

Here is a prediction for you.

Record low turnout.

Renters outnumber and outvote property voters.

Socialism wins.

Nothing changes.
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#1736 On the Level

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Posted 23 November 2020 - 11:05 PM

Here is mine

 

Stephen Andrews wins but Sarah Potts contests the election due to white privilege.  The Bike Mayor and Poet Laureate are brought in to mediate and declare Stefanie Hardman the winner.

 

 

While I'm at it....here are some more predictions

 

Ben Issit moves into City Hall as he says he doesn't make enough as a councillor.  A safe injection site is setup in City Council chambers.  Committee of the Whole meetings are moved to Crystal Pool.  The City of Victoria loses another 29% of it's staff.   A new phase of bike lanes are announced starting with the south side of Fort Street.  Twist ties are banned.  Christmas music is replaced with Zamfir.  Onthelevel wins the lottery but then loses the ticket.  


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#1737 Stephen Andrew

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Posted 24 November 2020 - 06:16 AM

Here is a prediction for you.

Record low turnout.



Renters outnumber and outvote property voters.

Socialism wins.

Nothing changes.


You sure know how to start a morning 🤦‍♂️

#1738 Nparker

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Posted 24 November 2020 - 07:42 AM

You sure know how to start a morning ‍♂

Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.



#1739 John M.

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Posted 24 November 2020 - 08:18 AM

What are people's thoughts on Roshan Vickery? 



#1740 TwilightZoneVictoria

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Posted 24 November 2020 - 08:25 AM

If Stephen Andrew wins you can bet that TV and supporters will contest it. Based on the ridiculous comments about seeing signs of a candidate they don't support. Completely un-democratic. 

 

Recall turnout being decent for the 2018 election. Might be so-so this year with the combo of people not knowing about the by-election. Hoping the city has it figured out how to facilitate the mail in ballots properly. 

 

People now see beyond the veil of TV and council. People I personally know who vote Green and NDP are not convinced that they're progressive. They're tired of hearing justifications for break and enters and human excrement and used needles left around. 

 

I hear comments like: 'This is the 2nd time our building has been broken into and I think that the choices of council have contributed to it' 'Tired of everyone being a victim and not having consideration for basic crime' 'Of course addicts know that their allies will protect them if they just say how hard it is and how much they want to change if only they had XYZ' 


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