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#461 spanky123

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Posted 06 July 2022 - 08:59 AM

Survey is here: https://www.stephena..._housing_survey

Says it closes on July 13 ... the day after the City's Missing Middle information session, but the day before the first reading of the Missing Middle bylaw.

 

I have no issue completing a survey but would have liked to have seen Stephen work with other council members so that each one didn't have to ask their own questions in order to get feedback.


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#462 Nparker

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Posted 06 July 2022 - 10:29 AM

Other than to achieve some sort of "woke-ish" feather in the mayor's cap (During my term as mayor, I solved the housing crisis in the CoV), I am really puzzled as to why this policy needs to be decided before the October municipal election. If it's good policy, I am sure the fine folks who will be elected in the fall will consider it with the all the consideration it deserves. 


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#463 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 07 July 2022 - 02:08 AM

San Francisco housing development has slowed to a crawl, with no uptick in sight: ‘The costs are simply too high’

 

 

 

With new housing development in San Francisco slowed to a crawl, Mayor London Breed is looking into whether reducing affordable requirements or deferring fees might get residential building job sites up and running again.

 

On Friday, Breed’s office called for the reconvening of the “technical advisory committee” that is supposed to periodically revisit the city’s inclusionary affordable housing program — which requires market-rate developers to either include affordable units, pay a fee or dedicate land. The eight-person committee, which includes four mayoral and four Board of Supervisors appointees, has not met since February 2018.

 

Breed spokesman Jeff Cretan said that rising construction costs, high inflation and interest rates, along with a sluggish pandemic recovery “make it an absolutely appropriate time to look at our policies so we can ensure that we are building the most housing, including affordable housing, that is possible.”

 

Supervisor Aaron Peskin, who co-sponsored the most recent version of the city’s affordable housing mandates, said “it’s definitely time to reconvene” the committee.

 

The push comes as the city is seeing declines at all points in the housing production cycle. Fewer new buildings are opening. Active construction sites are way down. And applications for new projects are few and far between.

 

During the Planning Commission meeting on Thursday, city economist Ted Egan and Land Use Program Manager Joshua Switzky delivered a mostly grim outlook for future housing development as well as office occupancy in downtown San Francisco.

 

 

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Posted 07 July 2022 - 06:39 AM

San Francisco housing development has slowed to a crawl, with no uptick in sight: ‘The costs are simply too high’

 

Development across the board is slowing to a halt. Developers can't get financing, inflation is driving up costs and buyers are waiting for prices to fall. 



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Posted 07 July 2022 - 06:42 AM

Yet 400,000 new Canadians will arrive this year.

#466 Mike K.

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Posted 07 July 2022 - 06:47 AM

Developers can get financing but they don’t necessarily want to pay the rates, or the rates don’t make sense given the rest of the costs involved to bring product to market. This is not like 2008 when credit was unavailable.

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Posted 07 July 2022 - 06:54 AM

Developers can get financing but they don’t necessarily want to pay the rates, or the rates don’t make sense given the rest of the costs involved to bring product to market. This is not like 2008 when credit was unavailable.

 

You are right, money is always available. What I was suggesting is that they cannot get financing at rates that make sense.


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#468 Barrrister

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Posted 07 July 2022 - 08:20 AM

What I am really wondering is what made Stephen Andrews do a flip flop and then vote for having this council make a snap decision this summer. Some say just bad judgment but what others are saying is that he made a deal. What was promised, by whom and for what if anything. 

 

I was a strong Andrews supporter but I am becoming convinced that he is just the next Lisa Helps. You can never pin him down on anything until after he votes on it and then he says the vote is over, time to move on. 

 

I am seriously disappointed that we are likely to get just more of the same and this city deserves better.


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#469 Matt R.

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Posted 07 July 2022 - 09:42 PM

Yet 400,000 new Canadians will arrive this year.


I’m getting two this month alone! :banana:

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Posted 11 July 2022 - 05:18 PM

Looks like Luke @ Aryze has had a little tantrum and went on a banning spree, including me.  So much for "Talk to Aryze"

 

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#471 dasmo

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Posted 11 July 2022 - 06:00 PM

“Talk to Aryze” is just clever marketing. It’s not really an invitation to discuss things. Have you guys read Bernays Propaganda yet? It’s one of the best marketing manuals out there!
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#472 Nparker

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Posted 11 July 2022 - 06:18 PM

“Talk to Aryze” is just clever marketing. It’s not really an invitation to discuss things...

"Talk to Aryze" is to discussion what CoV surveys are to public engagement.


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#473 Awaiting Juno

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Posted 13 July 2022 - 12:00 PM

He loves to quote tweet me - and yes, I'm blocked by Aryze and there's something that strikes me as really wrong about that. 

 

I'm surprised somebody hasn't started a @BlockedbyAryze as a twitter account.

 

I've also noted he's added "land economist" to his titles, I'd love to see his actual economics credentials.



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Posted 13 July 2022 - 03:53 PM

He loves to quote tweet me - and yes, I'm blocked by Aryze and there's something that strikes me as really wrong about that. 

 

I'm surprised somebody hasn't started a @BlockedbyAryze as a twitter account.

 

I've also noted he's added "land economist" to his titles, I'd love to see his actual economics credentials.

 

Why is it that you blocked that account then, rules dont apply to you?

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Posted 13 July 2022 - 04:05 PM

Why is it that you blocked that account then, rules dont apply to you?

 

Much of twitter is a cesspool, but there are some good conversations to be had.  '@TalkToAryze (Unless you disagree with us)' blocking half the people who are posing legitimate questions and concerns not only makes having any sort of discussion and respectful debate difficult and creates twitter threads where every-second post can't be displayed, it really speaks volumes about the commitment Aryze has to engage with the community and highlights where your priorities are. 

 

Not only that, you're happy to screenshot comments made by people you've blocked and continue the discussion in public behind their back where they can't be part of the conversation.  Real mature.  I still have no clue what I said to piss off Luke... 


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Posted 13 July 2022 - 04:16 PM

Without know who has been blocked, you are making some very broad assumptions that “half the people” are blocked. Nobody has been blocked for disagreements, blocks occur when people are verbally abusive, aggressive, or have some personal attacks.

If you want to DM me your twitter handle, happy to check into it 😊

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Posted 13 July 2022 - 04:18 PM

Much of twitter is a cesspool...

Agreed.



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Posted 13 July 2022 - 04:25 PM

Without know who has been blocked, you are making some very broad assumptions that “half the people” are blocked. Nobody has been blocked for disagreements, blocks occur when people are verbally abusive, aggressive, or have some personal attacks.

If you want to DM me your twitter handle, happy to check into it

 

Figure of speech...


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#479 PPPdev

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Posted 13 July 2022 - 04:30 PM

Was the part where you questioned our commitment and maturity figures of speech? Hahaha (it’s a joke too) 😋

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#480 Mike K.

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Posted 14 July 2022 - 06:57 AM

Councillor Andrew’s survey results: https://www.stephena..._survey_results

75% feel they were not or insufficiently informed on the issue.

Nearly 60% oppose it or need more information before they decide.

More: https://www.stephena..._survey_results
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