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[Victoria Watcher]

Here he is again


Alcohol should have cancer warning labels, say doctors and researchers pushing to raise awareness of risk


"Even drinking one drink a day increases your risk of some cancers — including, if you're a woman, breast cancer — but also cancers of the digestive system, the mouth, stomach," said Tim Stockwell, a senior scientist with the Canadian Institute for Substance Use Research at the University of Victoria.

"The risk increases with every drink you take."

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ancer-1.6304816

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 08 January 2022 - 09:01 AM.

[todd]

No **** sherlock drinking is bad for you.

[todd]

Figured I’d be responsible and put in a home bar when the coronavirus thing took hold. finished wood bar, mirror in the back, neon signage, etc I’ve liked alcohol but alcohol doesn’t liked me but once you get into perfecting those mixed drinks..

[Moderation]

A 2008 study report on cancer gives some background.

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC2515569/

[Matt R.]

Someone sent me a $140 bottle of rye from Alberta for Christmas. Pondering regifting it as I don’t drink much these days but I gotta have a taste.

[todd]

^ chug! chug! chug! chug!

[Mike K.]

$140 bottle of rye? How many gallons is that thing?

[Matt R.]

It’s a 750 ml. of Blue Run straight Kentucky rye whiskey.

[Victoria Watcher]

2019:

 

 

 

Canadian alcohol policy gets failing grade from UVic researchers

 

Canadian provinces and territories collectively achieved less than half of their potential to reduce alcohol related harm

 

https://www.vicnews....ic-researchers/

 

 

 

2015:

 

 

B.C.'s alcohol consumption on the rise again, says UVic study

 

Average British Columbian drank the equivalent of 100 bottles of wine or 528 beers this year, says UVic study

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...on-up-1.3374574

 

 

 

 

 

2017:

 

 

Wasted lives: The cost of alcohol addiction

 

B.C. has the highest rate of hospitalizations for alcohol-related problems in the country

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ction-1.4432914

 

 

 

 

2014:

 

 

Canadians grossly underestimate their alcohol consumption, study says

 

https://www.theglobe...rticle19028923/

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 09 January 2022 - 06:48 PM.

[Mike K.]

Imagine that fellow at a party.

“Oh oh, here comes Tim! Matt, hide your rye!”

[todd]

What about pure opium? Seems like a similar substitute

[todd]

Imagine that fellow at a party.

“Oh… hide your rye!”

Are you more likely to get cancer from the cheap stuff? Hangover seems worse on the cheap stuff

[Mike K.]

From the US Surgeon General:

 

“Alcohol is a well-established, preventable cause of cancer responsible for about 100,000 cases of cancer and 20,000 cancer deaths annually in the United States – greater than the 13,500 alcohol-associated traffic crash fatalities per year in the US – yet the majority of Americans are unaware of this risk,” Murthy said in a statement.

 

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Increasingly, evidence has mounted against alcohol consumption because of its health risks, negating a decades-long perception that some alcohol – especially red wine – could benefit health.

 

Still, nuances persist: A report in December from the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine concluded that moderate drinking – two drinks a day or fewer for men and one for women – may be associated with lower risks of cardiovascular disease. It also found that moderate drinking was associated with a higher risk of certain types of cancer.

 

A customer enjoys a non-alcoholic beverage at Hekate Cafe and Elixer Lounge on January 20, 2023 in New York City. Alcohol-free bars, dance parties and “sober curious” events in New York City are experiencing an uptick in popularity with people drinking less and looking for alternative solutions to enjoying nightlife not centered around alcohol.

 

“There was actually a time when we thought red wine increases risk of some cancers, but the positive effects for cardiovascular disease overwhelm the negative effects for cancer,” said Dr. Otis Brawley, an oncologist at Johns Hopkins University and former chief medical and scientific officer for the American Cancer Society.

 

Over the past three years, however, a steady stream of scientific evidence and comprehensive research reviews have disproved that idea.

 

“People need to be warned,” Brawley said. “There is no safe amount of alcohol.”

 

 

 

- https://www.cnn.com/...sory/index.html

[aastra]

Maybe it's time for a broad legal and social prohibition of alcohol? Unprecedented circumstances call for unprecedented measures.

[Mike K.]

Maybe it’s not so bad.

The experts also said, just a few years ago, that fentanyl is so dangerous that a grain of sand will kill a person if they come in contact with it. Now it’s everywhere, and the concerns have disappeared.

[aastra]

 

Maybe it’s not so bad.

 

Like sand through the hourglass...

[Mike K.]

Like fentanyl crystals through the hourglass, you mean.

[lanforod]

Maybe it's time for a broad legal and social prohibition of alcohol? Unprecedented circumstances call for unprecedented measures.

 

Legal doesn't work. Maybe raising the age to 21 to match the US?

 

Social, I think is happening as Gen Z doesn't seem to be nearly as big on drinking as previous generations. Other vices in play of course... there's always something, I guess.

[Matt R.]

Prohibition doesn’t work, only safe supply and then shame/stigma/control.

Drinking rates are way down, are they not?

[lanforod]

I think so. Now excuse me while I go make an Irish coffee.