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[Burnside-Gorge] 129-135 Gorge Road East
#21
Posted 03 November 2022 - 04:51 PM
#22
Posted 03 November 2022 - 04:54 PM
^ Why should the city have a say in it? It's already zoned for multi family...no?
#23
Posted 03 November 2022 - 04:54 PM
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#24
Posted 03 November 2022 - 04:55 PM
^ Exactly.
#25
Posted 03 November 2022 - 04:57 PM
The wrecking ball is coming to make way for the migrants/immigrants. No?
Renting to existing tenants is a loosing proposition.
#26
Posted 03 November 2022 - 05:01 PM
It likely is. But I presume they are asking for density higher than the current zoning.^ Why should the city have a say in it? It's already zoned for multi family...no?
It’s going to the City for something.
Edited by Victoria Watcher, 03 November 2022 - 05:02 PM.
#27
Posted 04 November 2022 - 08:41 AM
that public dock (& harbour-ferry stop?) & waterfront boardwalk sounds like a great idea. it would open up a part of city that nobody ever notices (not me anyway). i don't know why they can't get started on that part of it today though? is the plan to extend it to the park at tillicum then?
#28
Posted 04 November 2022 - 08:44 AM
that public dock (& harbour-ferry stop?) & waterfront boardwalk sounds like a great idea. it would open up a part of city that nobody ever notices (not me anyway). i don't know why they can't get started on that part of it today though? is the plan to extend it to the park at tillicum then?
Presumably, that's the "amenity package" the City will extort ask for. No point giving it to them before you get your variances/rezoning.
Edited by Victoria Watcher, 04 November 2022 - 08:44 AM.
#29
Posted 04 November 2022 - 08:49 AM
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#30
Posted 04 November 2022 - 10:56 AM
I really hope they aren't planning to make all five buildings look exactly the same.
#31
Posted 04 November 2022 - 05:46 PM
i can see that stretch becoming like the westsong walkway along the songhees to west bay marina. it's a pretty nice walk & seems to work well:
I don't think it's very hard to imagine a "subway map" of the stops you'd see along there, like johnson st, the marina, spinnakers, vic west streets etc. i guess it's good that esquimalt road & its bus routes aren't too far away so if they did something similar on that section of the gorge you'd want to easily access gorge rd from the waterfront. the city already has that arbutus park so they could have a bridge built across that inlet to connect directly to the boardwalk to the south. they could do that today. once this dock thing is done I don't think it would be that hard to connect it with arbutus park. the tricky bit would probably be the neighbours on lotus st but i'm sure something could be worked out. they could have signs saying "entering private property please stay on boardwalk" & if all else fails the path could go through the edge of the hospital grounds to lotus, to harriet & back to the waterfront. it might not be as hard as it looks. it would be a phenomenal improvement to that area if they could do it. (& saanich too on their end)
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#32
Posted 04 November 2022 - 11:19 PM
I suspect that City Council will reject this unless the 200 displaced households get to come back at the same rent they pay now, and they can stay as the project is phased. Which will make the project unfeasible for the proponent. Then they will suddenly discover the buildings are not at end-of-life.
#33
Posted 11 November 2022 - 04:13 AM
the city already has that arbutus park so they could have a bridge built across that inlet to connect directly to the boardwalk to the south. they could do that today. once this dock thing is done I don't think it would be that hard to connect it with arbutus park.
I agree that the potential for a waterfront pathway is really exciting here (I live just on the other side of Gorge from this proposal). However, I believe the limiting factor against putting a pedestrian bridge here is that it's a migratory bird sanctuary in the mud flats, and a bridge across the flats would restrict bird movements. Especially relative to other areas of "bird sanctuary" in Victoria (e.g. east coast beaches), this area actually sees a high population of birds moving through.
https://www.crd.bc.c...r.pdf?sfvrsn=2
I'm no biologist so have no idea if a pedestrian bridge could be compatible with the migratory birds. If so, that would sure be amazing.
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#34
Posted 11 November 2022 - 12:03 PM
that's good to know; i suppose a compromise would be a waterfront boardwalk from the end of washington ave, or along the northern shore to connect with the existing trail father along, closer to the gorge rd underpass. i wouldn't know whether it's the number of piers or simply having anything overhead that would affect the birds that use the mudflat there. i think a single span would be ~100m which might be a stretch.
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#35
Posted 30 December 2022 - 04:51 PM
The issue of protecting low rents in old buildings is not necessarily protecting low income families and individuals but in those cases where it does, the Province needs to support development transitions that increase overall density where it makes sense to do so such as, near transit arteries, close to employment hubs, and where City planning has established high density corridors like the Gorge Road corridor. Definitely a thumbs up on this project.
#36
Posted 22 January 2023 - 07:54 PM
Directly related to our discussion above about getting a boardwalk along with this potential development; there's talks starting about the city investing in Arbutus Park this year. it's directly to the east of this proposal. I wrote into the working group, currently headed by the burnside gorge land use committee, to ask for a boardwalk that would potentially connect to this new development to the west (if it goes through) and connect to the Goose / Selkirk development to the east. Early days yet, but I thought it was interesting to see this proposal at the same time as Arbutus Park proposals. https://www.capitald...ark-investment
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#37
Posted 19 November 2023 - 08:52 PM
This is going before council on Thursday.
Staff are recommending council waive the public hearing.
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#38
Posted 24 November 2023 - 06:30 AM
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#39
Posted 25 November 2023 - 12:29 PM
Stephen Andrew has voiced some concerns about this project.
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I wish council had the time to sit down and hear from all current tenants. They’d find out that the suites are all rented as “furnished”, many of the tenants have a tough time to make ends meet, and many have lived in their homes for decades.
#40
Posted 25 November 2023 - 05:31 PM
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