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[Victoria Watcher]

[Mike K.]

James Cameron called the whole thing reckless and foolish, and says the design of the submersible was subpar.

[Victoria Watcher]

Yes that was a good interview.

[Mike K.]

He said he and his colleagues in that industry already knew what had happened but wouldn’t publicly disclose it out of respect for the families.

So Watcher may have been right, in that Cameron alluded to the company being operated out of Canada because it may not have been held to the same standard it would have been held to in the US.

[Todd Test]

James Cameron called the whole thing reckless and foolish

most things in life are.




https://youtu.be/4Fc67yQsPqQ

Edited by Todd Test, 23 June 2023 - 08:55 AM.

[Todd Test]

He said he and his colleagues in that industry already knew what had happened but wouldn’t publicly disclose it out of respect for the families.

So Watcher may have been right, in that Cameron alluded to the company being operated out of Canada because it may not have been held to the same standard it would have been held to in the US.

what flag was the top ship flying?

[Mike K.]

most things in life are.

 

No, most things are not.

[Todd Test]

No, most things are not.

Some people don’t drive over the Malahat.

Some people don’t eat high cholesterol foods



You can do whatever YOU want as long as it doesn’t bother me (or others)

Edited by Todd Test, 23 June 2023 - 10:08 AM.

[Todd Test]

what flag was the top ship flying?

looks like Canada.

“ 2021 new ownership
In November 2021 the ship was purchased by Miawpukek Horizon Maritime Service Ltd, a joint venture between Horizon Maritime and the Miawpukek First Nation, a company that has trained Indigenous cadets as seafarers for offshore supply vessels. The new owners chartered the ship to SOI Foundation for expedition use for education, research and ocean conservation. “: https://en.m.wikiped...rt#Polar_Prince


Probably not much regulation for these types of research subs

Edited by Todd Test, 23 June 2023 - 10:41 AM.

[Mike K.]

You can do whatever YOU want as long as it doesn’t bother me (or others)

Yes, that is right.

[Mike K.]

looks like Canada.

“ 2021 new ownership
In November 2021 the ship was purchased by Miawpukek Horizon Maritime Service Ltd, a joint venture between Horizon Maritime and the Miawpukek First Nation, a company that has trained Indigenous cadets as seafarers for offshore supply vessels. The new owners chartered the ship to SOI Foundation for expedition use for education, research and ocean conservation. “: https://en.m.wikiped...rt#Polar_Prince


Probably not much regulation for these types of research vessels

There is, there are standards. This company, according to Cameron, should not have been going to those depths with their style of vessel.

I guess Cameron is a bit of an expert as he designs submersibles. I didn’t know that before this incident.

[Todd Test]

There is, there are standards. This company, according to Cameron, should not have been going to those depths with their style of vessel.


I guess Cameron is a bit of an expert as he designs submersibles. I didn’t know that before this incident.

Can I see the PDF of the regulations/standards? They’re probably not very good if they have them



Would be surprised if US had more strict regulations

That being said, Transport Canada is notorious for not requiring much for small vessels



This thing had the same safety standards as a PlayStation.

Edited by Todd Test, 23 June 2023 - 11:11 AM.

[Mike K.]

Yes, it’s all public.

I’m just going by what an expert was saying about this situation. Cameron called it basic engineering that this vessel, he believes, lacked.

[Todd Test]

I will also check the IMO.

[max.bravo]

There will be no IMO number for the submersible. The ship that carried them out to international waters may carry a Canadian flag but what happens next is passengers get into an unlicensed submersible and descend from international waters. The submersible itself isn’t governed by any flag or regulations.

[Todd Test]

“ Suleman, informed a relative that he "wasn't very up for it" and felt "terrified" about the trip to explore the wreckage of the Titanic. But the 19-year-old ended up going aboard… ”: https://www.nbcnews....s/amp/rcna90678

Felt the same way just before I did the zipper at the summer fair.

[LJ]

There will be no IMO number for the submersible. The ship that carried them out to international waters may carry a Canadian flag but what happens next is passengers get into an unlicensed submersible and descend from international waters. The submersible itself isn’t governed by any flag or regulations.

I don't believe there is a license per se, it lacked certification, which all the other deep diving subs comply with. Built to established industry standards.

[Todd Test]

looks like Canada.

“ 2021 new ownership
In November 2021 the ship was purchased by Miawpukek Horizon Maritime Service Ltd, a joint venture between Horizon Maritime and the Miawpukek First Nation, a company that has trained Indigenous cadets as seafarers for offshore supply vessels. The new owners chartered the ship to SOI Foundation for expedition use for education, research and ocean conservation. “: https://en.m.wikiped...rt#Polar_Prince

“U.S. Coast Guard to lead investigation into deadly rupture of Titan submersible”: https://www.timescol...ersible-7186464

[Todd Test]

“U.S. Coast Guard to lead investigation into deadly rupture of Titan submersible”: https://www.timescol...ersible-7186464

Canada taking it up from behind: “RCMP to investigate deaths aboard Titan sub, TSB reviewing logs”: https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6887770

[Victoria Watcher]

Canada taking it up from behind: “RCMP to investigate deaths aboard Titan sub, TSB reviewing logs”: https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6887770

 

Waste of time.