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#25781 Nparker

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Posted 23 February 2024 - 02:19 PM

Sounds like we paid for it in the end.

In the end is where we always pay for it.



#25782 Beacon

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Posted 23 February 2024 - 03:30 PM

I live within a stones throw away from tiny town. It's been absolutely night and day difference since it has been closed down and not operational. To find out it is being brought back and the city thinks it's a safe thing to do for our community is absolutely wrong. Now again we must look over our backs, have our properties trespassed almost every night and day. Homeless people attract other homeless people. Homeless people also attract crime and danger. The city knew what they were doing by not dismantling tiny homes when it was out of service, knowing it will run again. Why must the community of north park suffer again if we can't even protect our belongings in our home/on our property. It's a damn shame it's come to this. 

 

Also look out even more since the first round of tiny town was the carefully hand picked folks for success, this time around expect the "hard to house" type to be housed there since that is what many remaining homeless on the streets camping now are


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#25783 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 February 2024 - 03:37 PM

March 2023:

 

 

 

 

Tiny Town to remain in place until Sept. 30; no more extensions, says council

 

30-unit complex built with shipping containers is on part of Royal Athletic Park parking lot.
 
 
 
 

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 23 February 2024 - 03:37 PM.


#25784 JimV

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Posted 23 February 2024 - 03:43 PM

Heck, it’s just til September 30, so that’s OK.  Council promised, what could possibly go wrong?


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#25785 Beacon

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Posted 23 February 2024 - 03:43 PM

 

March 2023:

 

 

 

 

Tiny Town to remain in place until Sept. 30; no more extensions, says council

 

30-unit complex built with shipping containers is on part of Royal Athletic Park parking lot.
 
 
 
 

 

 

So did council then extend it or did the Province just reopen it on the same site without asking anyone?  



#25786 Nparker

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Posted 23 February 2024 - 03:44 PM

So did council then extend it or did the Province just reopen it on the same site without asking anyone?  

The latter, but when did the Province ever ask anyone affected by dumping the homeless in their neighbourhood?



#25787 Beacon

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Posted 23 February 2024 - 04:38 PM

The latter, but when did the Province ever ask anyone affected by dumping the homeless in their neighbourhood?

 

:(   There's never a better permanent solution than a temporary one


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#25788 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 February 2024 - 09:24 PM

So did council then extend it or did the Province just reopen it on the same site without asking anyone?  

 

The city signed a letter agreeing to let them stay.

 

And at $1.2M it's costing $2,072 per day to run this thing.


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 23 February 2024 - 09:24 PM.


#25789 Nparker

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Posted 23 February 2024 - 10:14 PM

... it's costing $2,072 per day to run this thing.

I wonder if the CoV/Province would pay me $70/day to continue to live in my home and off the streets?



#25790 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 February 2024 - 10:58 PM

Another $15,000 per month comes from the residents' welfare shelter allowances (it has recently been moved to $500 per month from $375).


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 23 February 2024 - 10:58 PM.


#25791 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 24 February 2024 - 06:27 PM

Tent City Nation: Are Canada's homeless encampments here to stay?

 

https://ottawacitize...ent-city-nation

 

 

 

Eloe, a woman in her 30s with green hair, a septum ring, a leopard-print scarf and red bomber jacket, lives in a tent made from construction tarps, which forms part of a satellite community outside the fence.

 

Although camp life can be harsh, she says it offers more freedom and security than a homeless shelter.

 

“It’s not easy living here, but it’s better than the shelter because there’s more live-and-let-live,’” says Eloe, who has been part of an encampment since May. “People have more privacy here and we look after each other. It’s a family.”

 

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Many things happened at once, among them a pandemic. COVID-19 forced homeless shelters to impose capacity limits to reduce the spread of the infectious disease, which forced many people on the margins into tents and sheds.

 

Shelters were already under pressure, in part because of a substantial increase in the number of refugees using their services. The number of people seeking asylum in Canada has spiked in recent years. During the first 11 months of 2023, more than 128,000 people filed asylum claims in this country — a record number. It’s more than double the number from all of 2019, the year before the pandemic’s outbreak.


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 24 February 2024 - 06:32 PM.


#25792 Nparker

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Posted 24 February 2024 - 06:34 PM

As long various levels of government/social agencies enable homeless encampments they won't be going anywhere.



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Posted 26 February 2024 - 10:02 AM

Jamie Sarkonak: Homeless camps deserve to be stigmatized

It’s not the state’s place to formally dedicate space to an economy that trades in cruelty and addiction

https://nationalpost...-be-stigmatized

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 26 February 2024 - 10:02 AM.

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#25794 JimV

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Posted 26 February 2024 - 10:04 AM

As long as idiot voters keep electing egregiously woke and incompetent governments we will be plagued with lawless zombie encampments.  But you already know this.


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Posted 26 February 2024 - 10:05 AM

Even though police run patrols, and community groups run outreach programs, tent cities tend to be “governed” by gangs. In Vancouver, gang members set up tents in the community as an outpost for dealing. In Calgary, a gang took over a camp near a drop-in centre — resulting in beatings of campers and assaults on centre workers. In Edmonton, gangs are taxing the homeless and extracting payments for visiting drug-use facilities; a 16-year-old girl was even sex-trafficked through the camps. It’s a total racket.

The reality of camp life is grim. A teen was raped in a Victoria tent camp in 2021; a woman was captured, held and sexually assaulted over 15 hours by two residents of a Vancouver tent city in 2020. On Nov. 28, a sex assault took place outside an Edmonton homeless shelter which involved a group of 10 people. Advocates are most concerned about police actions, but often ignore the sheer amount of violence and criminality coming from homeless people themselves.

#25796 Nparker

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Posted 26 February 2024 - 10:11 AM

... Advocates are most concerned about police actions, but often ignore the sheer amount of violence and criminality coming from homeless people themselves.

This for sure.



#25797 LJ

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Posted 28 February 2024 - 07:51 PM

Arizona is spending about a $1B on the homeless. The vast majority is on shelter, the smallest amount is on rehab. That comes to about $44,000 per homless person.

 

https://www.abc15.co...ch organization.


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#25798 Nparker

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Posted 29 February 2024 - 02:51 PM

I just received the following fait accompli letter from BC Housing (red boxes are my edits). Why do I not trust a single word they say? You have to laugh at the inclusion of the "Who To Call" document. Like that gives me any sense of comfort.  :whyme:

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#25799 Mike K.

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Posted 29 February 2024 - 03:01 PM

I hear it’s a two year wait for BC Housing units right now, in the Capital.

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#25800 Nparker

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Posted 29 February 2024 - 03:07 PM

Photos from my latest-to-be-ignored bylaw violation report to the CoV.

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The second photo is of the strip of Harris Green along the 1000 block of Pandora Avenue. The infection is spreading.



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